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This is a discussion on bolt ons within the General Help forums, part of the LSx Technical Help Section category; For a beginning bolt on car ( which this car is) there is no need for a 90 or 102mm ...

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    For a beginning bolt on car ( which this car is) there is no need for a 90 or 102mm intake. An LS6 and ported TB will work fine and cost less than half of a fast set up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 0rion View Post
    For a beginning bolt on car ( which this car is) there is no need for a 90 or 102mm intake. An LS6 and ported TB will work fine and cost less than half of a fast set up.
    i agree to a point.....unless hes doing cam OR heads/cam i see no need for a bigger TB, the ls6 with a P&P (stock) TB should be just fine

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    what would be the performance difference between the bbk intake manifold with a 80mm tb to a FAST 102mm intake manifold with a FAST tb

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ls1m6Nichols View Post
    what would be the performance difference between the bbk intake manifold with a 80mm tb to a FAST 102mm intake manifold with a FAST tb
    your comparing apples to oranges hahaha......IMHO to run a 102 FAST you need to build a engine for it really haha......there people using the ls6 intake making 500/600 hp and theres TONs using the fast 92 making almost 1000hp

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ls1m6Nichols View Post
    what would be the performance difference between the bbk intake manifold with a 80mm tb to a FAST 102mm intake manifold with a FAST tb
    IMHO their are only 2 good intake manifolds out there. The FAST and the LS6. The BBK is aluminum and heat sinks more then the plastic intakes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cutlass View Post
    IMHO their are only 2 good intake manifolds out there. The FAST and the LS6. The BBK is aluminum and heat sinks more then the plastic intakes.
    i agree

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cutlass View Post
    IMHO their are only 2 good intake manifolds out there. The FAST and the LS6. The BBK is aluminum and heat sinks more then the plastic intakes.
    Werd. Those are the two main intakes ppl use on their cars. Dont know a lot of ppl using the BBK or Weilden or w/e. But yes, LS6 intake is good for a h/c set up but if you want more cubes, look into the FAST.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ls1m6Nichols View Post
    what would be the performance difference between the bbk intake manifold with a 80mm tb to a FAST 102mm intake manifold with a FAST tb
    most of it is going to be determined by what you have done to the car. Putting a 102mm intake on a bolt on car is much much different than putting one on a heads/cam car. Fast is overpriced IMO, the BBK is metal which is extra heat/weight and not as good a performer as the FAST. The LS6 on the other hand is readily available used for just over $300, composite, and has shown to support plenty of HP. To me when you look at the complete package the LS6 gets my vote. The price is probably the biggest plus to it.....you can take that money saved and put it elsewhere on the car.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 0rion View Post
    For a beginning bolt on car ( which this car is) there is no need for a 90 or 102mm intake. An LS6 and ported TB will work fine and cost less than half of a fast set up.
    I agree.

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    Thanks for the help i just got my ls1. what hp gains would i get with the ls6 and what size port on my tb. and should i get a frost tune

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ls1m6Nichols View Post
    Thanks for the help i just got my ls1. what hp gains would i get with the ls6 and what size port on my tb. and should i get a frost tune
    post the TB as much as you can IMO.....if your doing intake/TB/full exhaust then yes i would get a frost tune

    i may have misread it BUT is your car a 6spd or auto???

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    its a 6 speed manual and yes a have longtube headers and exhaust slp lid 4.11 gears. just looking for a little more hp give me all the advice you can give me haha

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ls1m6Nichols View Post
    its a 6 speed manual and yes a have longtube headers and exhaust slp lid 4.11 gears. just looking for a little more hp give me all the advice you can give me haha
    well haha usless your going to add NOS you just about got everything covered if you dont want to do heads and cam lol

    might want to change those pushrods either way

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    Bolt ons:

    Lid, LTs, Exhaust, cut-out, P&P TB, smooth bellows, intake manifold, underdrive pulley, cold air intake, supercharger, turbo, and NOS. Yes, FI is a bolt-on. Not your "typical" bolt-on, but non-the-less it is.

    Didn't mention MAF b/c you should leave it alone...

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    smooth bellows are pretty much only an appearance mod...

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    Your gonna need the steam tubes that run under the LS6 manifold when you get ready to install one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 35th-ANV-SS View Post
    Bolt ons:

    Lid, LTs, Exhaust, cut-out, P&P TB, smooth bellows, intake manifold, underdrive pulley, cold air intake, supercharger, turbo, and NOS. Yes, FI is a bolt-on. Not your "typical" bolt-on, but non-the-less it is.

    Didn't mention MAF b/c you should leave it alone...
    i dont agree those (supercharger, turbo) are bolt ons BUT i understand your point

    smooth bellow is not going to add HP lol and cut-outs is under the exhaust category hahaha

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