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    Hey all, I wanted to see what you guys think of this setup. I'm somewhat looking to turn my engine into an 01 z06 motor, or similar. I was thinkin about this setup, what do you think? what would I need in addition.- 01 ws6

    1.85 ratio rocker arms
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    01 z06 stock cam

    new valve springs?

    I'm looking to get around 400hp, im not looking to get a big cam or anything crazy, just something of a big brother (z06) upgrade

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    you can do that quite easy with or with out the zo6 heads there are so many heads to choose from ( CHECK OUR SPONSORS AND YOU WILL SEE) if u want a stock heads like a stock eliminiator class you could go with ls6 heads / 243 casting heads / the ws6 already have the identical cam as the zo6 to that will bump you up to your 400 hp at the crankshaft horsepower 365-+ or minus 15 hp depends on the dyno and you are at your 400 hp crankshaft goal
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    thanks you too. I thought the z06 had a slightly larger cam? And im new to the world of heads and castings and such. Whats the difference

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    I am not 100% sure on this, but I believe the '02 LS6 cam was a bit bigger than the '01 version. IIRC, they rated them at 385 in '01 and then bumped them up to 405 in '02.

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    but i'd have to get new springs, retainers? definitely a tune, ls6 heads?

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    rocker arms are a waste of money

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ramairgod84 View Post
    but i'd have to get new springs, retainers? definitely a tune, ls6 heads?
    If you do a cam, you will definitely need new springs/retainers/etc and a tune as well. I wouldn't waste the time or money on rockers really.

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    well internals is new to me. I don tknow much about rockers other than what I read in the catalogues. It seems as if , if you get certain rocker arms, that you dont need a cam. I could be wrong. What will rockers do? And with a sstock z06 cam i wouldnt need too much of a tune right?

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    rockers are a waste unless you have done every little thing. A tune is going to cost the same whether it is just bolt-ons or a cam.

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    243 (LS6 heads with gasket match port and polished and mill the heads to 62CC) Then get a 04 Z06 camshaft, LTs, pretty much full bolt on and you should be around 400 rwhp. Depends if you want flywheel or rwhp power
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    I guess just flywheel. I know anything after that requires heavier modification. I've got lt's on there and all the basic air and exhaust mods. I'm almost afraid to ask, but how much do u guys think an install like that would run? I'd try it myself but i dont trust myself to do somethin like that.

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    I'd be swaping basically the ls1 heads/cam for an 04 z06 cam, and a set of 243 head which i'd have port n polished. Would I need new springs as well?

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    I wouldn't waste my time installing a Z06 cam when there are better choices out there. Thunder Racing has a line of Cheater cams that work well with stock exaust and cats and they don't require tuning unless you have an A4 transmission. Cam,springs and pushrods for less than $600.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PFM View Post
    I wouldn't waste my time installing a Z06 cam when there are better choices out there. Thunder Racing has a line of Cheater cams that work well with stock exaust and cats and they don't require tuning unless you have an A4 transmission. Cam,springs and pushrods for less than $600.
    ^^^^^ I'm with him.

    But once you start modding you always want more (trust me) so I would start with exhaust so you can take advantage of whatever later mods you decide to do like H/C/I etc....

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    Yea, like i said i've got all the basic bolt ons. And after reading into what it all takes for the install of a cam and heads, first , i wouldnt want to do it myself, second, it's uber expensive, and third, paying someone else to do it would cost a ton, not to mention having to get the car tuned after.

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    You need springs with an LS6 cam so that change is flatout not worth it IMO even though the springs are cheap.....A 224 cam is the minimun I would run.. I have a 230/234 I could DD if I needed to....

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    i got a zo6 cam if you need it

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ramairgod84 View Post
    Yea, like i said i've got all the basic bolt ons. And after reading into what it all takes for the install of a cam and heads, first , i wouldnt want to do it myself, second, it's uber expensive, and third, paying someone else to do it would cost a ton, not to mention having to get the car tuned after.
    yes it costs at least a grand to get springs and a cam installed so why don't you call up comp cams and tell them you have a daily driver and you want a camshaft that will pass smog in every state and that you don't want to change your valve springs every 20 thousand miles with having a custom cam made for you its only $125 more and then you can have a cam made for your daily driving habits

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    leez, what year zo6? just out of curiosity

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    I thought they would do a custom grind for the same $$$ as off the shelf... Mine is a custom XFI/X-ER lobed cam and I paid $389????

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