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    2005 CTS-V Info Needed

    First off, this is my first post here. I am not new to vehichles, fabrication, or engines...but I am totally new to computer controlled engines...specifically LS based. I am currently swapping a 2005 CTS-V LS6 into my rock buggy. I am having some issues figuring out all my parameters. I am using a Holley HP 550-602 harness and computer kit. Quest #1: I need to know the stock injector psi and flow rate to enter into the tune software. Quest #2: I have a Quicktime RM6093 Midplate. I could not get the 168T flexplate past the midplate during the install. Am I missing something? The pulled engine was a 1973 427 TD with a 168T flexplate, so I thought it would all work. Thank you in advance for your help.
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    Welcome to the site!

    Had a chance to play with and help tune a rock buggy a while back - they are amazing machines. I can pull up a stock tune for an '05 CTS-V through an on-line tune repository and it shows these injector flow numbers at the stated kPa of manifold vacuum:


    29.08 at 0 kPa
    29.33 at 5
    29.51 at 10
    29.70 at 15
    29.89 at 20
    30.01 at 25
    30.20 at 30
    30.38 at 35
    30.57 at 40
    30.75 at 45
    30.94 at 50
    31.06 at 55
    31.25 at 60
    31.44 at 65
    31.56 at 70
    31.75 at 75
    31.93 at 80

    Stock injector rating is 28 lbs/hr at 3 bar. That translates to around 33.9 lbs/hr at 58 psi and the GM P/N on the stock injectors should be 12569113. I can verify this in my books tomorrow if something doesn't look right to you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pajeff02 View Post
    Welcome to the site!

    Had a chance to play with and help tune a rock buggy a while back - they are amazing machines. I can pull up a stock tune for an '05 CTS-V through an on-line tune repository and it shows these injector flow numbers at the stated kPa of manifold vacuum:


    29.08 at 0 kPa
    29.33 at 5
    29.51 at 10
    29.70 at 15
    29.89 at 20
    30.01 at 25
    30.20 at 30
    30.38 at 35
    30.57 at 40
    30.75 at 45
    30.94 at 50
    31.06 at 55
    31.25 at 60
    31.44 at 65
    31.56 at 70
    31.75 at 75
    31.93 at 80

    Stock injector rating is 28 lbs/hr at 3 bar. That translates to around 33.9 lbs/hr at 58 psi and the GM P/N on the stock injectors should be 12569113. I can verify this in my books tomorrow if something doesn't look right to you.
    Thanks for the quick reply. As I said before, I have experience in other things but none in computer controlled fuel injection or LS Engines. So you have to dumb it down for me. Is 33.9lbs and 58psi what I should enter into the Holley tune software for my injector info? Or is it the 28lbs you said was at 3 bar (I don't know what 3 bar means). Thanks again for the assistance. By the way, I keep tying to post a pic of my buggy and it keeps denying it saying that new posts are limited in the number of URLs, but there are no URLs yet?!

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    Host your pics on sites like Photobucket and then copy and paste the [IMG] code into your post on here. I think the site security settings were tweaked a while back due to spammers so you may need to meet the 10 day/10 post rule before the pics will be allowed.

    I am not sure of the format that your tuning software wants for an input. A stock LS engine fuel system supplies fuel at 58 psi. The LS6 injectors have a 3 bar rating (43.5 psi) of 28 lbs/hr. However, increasing the pressure also increases the flow. You can see that in the charts on this site: Stan Weiss' - Electronic Fuel Injector (EFI) Flow Data Table The Delphi injectors are listed about halfway down the page and then Rochester/GM is further on down. The engine management software should have a scaling function for use with different fuel pressures.

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