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This is a discussion on went to the track within the Drag Racing forums, part of the Racing Forums category; Originally Posted by EVIL-LS1 The difference between the tracks are Sumer duck is 300ft above sea level and Colonial beach ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by EVIL-LS1 View Post
    The difference between the tracks are Sumer duck is 300ft above sea level and Colonial beach is 149ft above sea level
    Not to mention, as soon as you pass the 1/8th mile mark at the duck, you're slamming on the brakes going DOWNHILL. Another reason i won't run there.

    Check out my post in the Camaro section man

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrMasterCraft View Post
    Not to mention, as soon as you pass the 1/8th mile mark at the duck, you're slamming on the brakes going DOWNHILL. Another reason i won't run there.

    Check out my post in the Camaro section man
    I dont slam on my brakes. I just coast Its enough room to stop. Bunny burket with a funny car went 4.01@180+ MPH and she stoped.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EVIL-LS1 View Post
    I dont slam on my brakes. I just coast Its enough room to stop. Bunny burket with a funny car went 4.01@180+ MPH and she stoped.


    And the one time you're car may have a brake problem could possibly be the one time you need to stop going downhill at the track. I'm not chancing it. Plus, that track lay-out is about confusing as hell, and jammed in the staging lanes if you get more than 30 cars in... I'll stick to the beach.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrMasterCraft View Post


    And the one time you're car may have a brake problem could possibly be the one time you need to stop going downhill at the track. I'm not chancing it. Plus, that track lay-out is about confusing as hell, and jammed in the staging lanes if you get more than 30 cars in... I'll stick to the beach.
    Have you been up there in a while. They have changed the staging lanes. They have 5-6 rows for cars now. Anyways are cars anit that fast yet. The beach is a better and faster track. But if your running at the duck and your time is getting low 8s at the duck your a 7s car at the beach.. I would rather run at the slower track and get my times down there..For I now my car is faster then what Iam running..
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    Whenever you hear anybody talk about the local 1/8th mile track, its always summerduck. There's one reason. The other reason is the fact that I'm riding on my stock calipers/pads/rotors. And these rotors warp easy as hell, I'm not trying to even risk replacing those (not yet). And my last point is that the beach is actually a few miles and almost 10 minutes closer to my house than the duck. Definately not going out of my way to go to the duck. But hell, I haven't even been to either track yet this year, so I don't really have much room to talk (not yet).

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrMasterCraft View Post
    Whenever you hear anybody talk about the local 1/8th mile track, its always summerduck. There's one reason. The other reason is the fact that I'm riding on my stock calipers/pads/rotors. And these rotors warp easy as hell, I'm not trying to even risk replacing those (not yet). And my last point is that the beach is actually a few miles and almost 10 minutes closer to my house than the duck. Definately not going out of my way to go to the duck. But hell, I haven't even been to either track yet this year, so I don't really have much room to talk (not yet).
    Colonial beach go new owners this year and there gonna do alot of upgrades. They said they might make it 1/4 mile again. Next year the track is gonna be concrete the whole track. I'd rather run at colonial beach also. Its flat and it don't go up hill. My car is faster there too..

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    Concrete? Really? Hmm.... not too sure what to think of that

    Have you ran your car yet with the new DRs?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrMasterCraft View Post
    Concrete? Really? Hmm.... not too sure what to think of that

    Have you ran your car yet with the new DRs?
    I took the DR's of the ZR1s because it set off lights in my dash and my abs wouldn't work.Because they where 28" tall and where 2" taller then the fronts..Concrete will be better you wont spin on concrete like on ashpalt..

    This Saturday the hideout had a good turnout at the BK in manassass..

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    Quote Originally Posted by EVIL-LS1 View Post
    I took the DR's of the ZR1s because it set off lights in my dash and my abs wouldn't work.Because they where 28" tall and where 2" taller then the fronts..Concrete will be better you wont spin on concrete like on ashpalt..

    This Saturday the hideout had a good turnout at the BK in manassass..
    Hopefully they go 1/4

    The BK in Manassas? Is that the one right next to Taco Bell on the corner of 28 and Liberia Ave? If so, that's about 10 seconds from my shop...

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    I now its on rt 28 I thought it was a mc ds right across it but it might be a taco bell..

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    Living here in Phoenix I get to race at either Firebird (closer to home for me) or Speedworld (slightly faster track for me). Both are about 1200 feet above sea level but the DA is usually closer to 3k+. I'd kill to be back at sea level (I'm originally from Los Angeles so I know what it's like).

    One of my buddies on my local board found a DA calculator to convert ET at altitude down to sea level. At sea level my car would be a 12.2x second ride.

    That's ok as I'm happy (for now) with an all stock bolt on only car running consistant 12.6x times. It's gonna take going into the engine (heads or cam or both) to get it to run much faster. It's a dichotomy though as I like being able to drive it cross country if I want.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 67CamaroRSSS View Post
    Living here in Phoenix I get to race at either Firebird (closer to home for me) or Speedworld (slightly faster track for me). Both are about 1200 feet above sea level but the DA is usually closer to 3k+. I'd kill to be back at sea level (I'm originally from Los Angeles so I know what it's like).

    One of my buddies on my local board found a DA calculator to convert ET at altitude down to sea level. At sea level my car would be a 12.2x second ride.

    That's ok as I'm happy (for now) with an all stock bolt on only car running consistant 12.6x times. It's gonna take going into the engine (heads or cam or both) to get it to run much faster. It's a dichotomy though as I like being able to drive it cross country if I want.
    Thats cool do you now the link to the DA calculator.. The tracks I run at is Sumerduck 300ft above sea level Colonial Beach 149ft above sea level and MIR 87ft above sea level...

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    Back in the day I raced at Orange County International Raceway (OCIR, maybe 150 feet above sea level), Brotherhood Raceway on Terminal Island (maybe 20 feet above sea level, sometimes there was a negative DA) and later at Los Angeles County Raceway (LACR) which was at 3500 feet elevation. I had to change jets to get the car(s) to run right. This was back during the 70's thru 90's. All these tracks have since closed

    It's a lot easier having a fuel injected car with a computer making adjustments for ya.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EVIL-LS1 View Post
    I now its on rt 28 I thought it was a mc ds right across it but it might be a taco bell..
    That's the one right by I-66. I pass both every single day when I leave the shop and go out to jobsites during the day. That's too much of a hike for me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrMasterCraft View Post
    That's the one right by I-66. I pass both every single day when I leave the shop and go out to jobsites during the day. That's too much of a hike for me.
    From south point wal-mart its only 55-58 miles from there. Its not that bad of a drive..It takes me 40-45 minutes to get there from my house.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 67CamaroRSSS View Post
    Back in the day I raced at Orange County International Raceway (OCIR, maybe 150 feet above sea level), Brotherhood Raceway on Terminal Island (maybe 20 feet above sea level, sometimes there was a negative DA) and later at Los Angeles County Raceway (LACR) which was at 3500 feet elevation. I had to change jets to get the car(s) to run right. This was back during the 70's thru 90's. All these tracks have since closed

    It's a lot easier having a fuel injected car with a computer making adjustments for ya.

    Calculator is below:

    http://www.hardtail.com/techtips/altitude.html
    Thanks for the link...But I don't get how to do it..It dont go as low as 149-300ft above sea level
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    Quote Originally Posted by EVIL-LS1 View Post
    From south point wal-mart its only 55-58 miles from there. Its not that bad of a drive..It takes me 40-45 minutes to get there from my house.
    I can get from the Spotsy Courthouse (where I live) to Quarry Road (Manassas Parkj), in a little less than 40 minutes, leaving at 4am in the morning. If I leave at 5:30 it takes me an hour and a half.

    Sitting in rough hour traffic every day AFTER work... well, I'm not game for trying it during a Friday or Saturday night. I'll deal with the mustangs down here, screw it

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    Here is the DA calc I use.

    http://wahiduddin.net/calc/calc_da.htm

    Weather site I use to get all the info. Just put in your Zip...

    http://www.wunderground.com/cgi-bin/...st?query=74014


    And FYI I do the Zip of our track. It sits at 612 feet..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Z28Thunder View Post
    Here is the DA calc I use.

    http://wahiduddin.net/calc/calc_da.htm

    Weather site I use to get all the info. Just put in your Zip...

    http://www.wunderground.com/cgi-bin/...st?query=74014


    And FYI I do the Zip of our track. It sits at 612 feet..
    Thanks for the links also..What the Elevation is what its above sea level. It says colonial beach is 10ft above sea level and Sumerduck is 236ft above sea level..
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    Quote Originally Posted by EVIL-LS1 View Post
    Thanks for the links also..What the Elevation is what its above sea level. It says colonial beach is 10ft above sea level and Sumerduck is 236ft above sea level..

    Yes Colonial via the weather site is 10 ft above. And Sumerduck per the same site is 236 above above.

    Colonial DA is currently -1274
    Sumerduck DA is currnetly -1777
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