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This is a discussion on Removing A/C belt add any HP? within the Drag Racing forums, part of the Racing Forums category; Originally Posted by shady milkman This is kind of true....but it is a well documented issue with ac compressors getting ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by shady milkman View Post
    This is kind of true....but it is a well documented issue with ac compressors getting screwed because they didn't shut down in time as I am pretty sure it is shutdown according to rpm. Also the small amount of turning at the track shouldn't be to bad...but once again I am a young buck:
    The A/C compressors shut down via throttle position from what I remember tinkering in HPtuner. I have both of my cars set to shut the A/C off at anything over 70%. And it doesn't come back on until throttle position reads 0%.

    In the stock tune I believe the compressor is set to shut down at 90-95% throttle position, and back on at 0%.

    Although the compressor is assentially off during WOT,,,there is still a slight amount of parasitic loss just from turning the pulley on the compressor even without the clutch engaged. Albiet a very slight amount though.

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    .3 tenths!....you remember the mph?

    Anyone else has tried this?

    I have 275mm tires on the front, it might be a bitch huh...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Firebirdjones View Post
    Wimp.........


    The older I get the more I like my creature comforts...

    FWIW, I've had my fair share of power nothing but the drivetrain cars. Armstrong steering (6 turns lock-to-lock) and manual drum brakes (they weigh less than disk brakes) are fun at over 100mph...

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    Quote Originally Posted by 67CamaroRSSS View Post


    The older I get the more I like my creature comforts...

    FWIW, I've had my fair share of power nothing but the drivetrain cars. Armstrong steering (6 turns lock-to-lock) and manual drum brakes (they weigh less than disk brakes) are fun at over 100mph...
    Ya I know where you're coming from. I still have a couple of non power steer/manual drum brake cars here if you want to relive those days

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    Quote Originally Posted by Firebirdjones View Post
    Ya I know where you're coming from. I still have a couple of non power steer/manual drum brake cars here if you want to relive those days
    for how much shit i give you old man i understand were you and 67 are coming from. already with my car i am wanted to pick up a more comfortable DD, like a g8 gt ..so i can have a good sound system, and a quiet cabin, and A/C, and a back seat and large trunk, and a smooth ride.

    but none the less..you two are still old

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    Quote Originally Posted by allbaugh_04 View Post
    .3 tenths!....you remember the mph?

    Anyone else has tried this?

    I have 275mm tires on the front, it might be a bitch huh...
    I don't remember the MPH. But I'm almost certain is was something like .2 tenths on my friends 4th gen. If I had to guess, that would probably equate to about the same MPH give or take a little.

    All I can tell you is try it and see what you come up with. You may or may not find much, or you may not like driving around the pits without power steering.

    It's an old trick that goes way back when you could order cars without power steering. We used to take the belts off the power steering on the classic cars all the time while at the track. Talk about tough to steer. When you have a classic car with the so common "over assisted" power steering setups,,,then drive it without the belt I found that much harder than driving these 4th gens with a rack and pinion and no belt. Considering the power steering on a 4th gen even when working takes some effort to turn it anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shady milkman View Post
    for how much shit i give you old man i understand were you and 67 are coming from. already with my car i am wanted to pick up a more comfortable DD, like a g8 gt ..so i can have a good sound system, and a quiet cabin, and A/C, and a back seat and large trunk, and a smooth ride.

    but none the less..you two are still old
    It's all good

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    Quote Originally Posted by allbaugh_04 View Post
    .3 tenths!....you remember the mph?

    Anyone else has tried this?

    I have 275mm tires on the front, it might be a bitch huh...
    Just for the record. It's very common to see a full effort 4th gen completely remove the power steering setup in favor of a manual rack. Not only do you get rid of the parasitic drag on the engine, but it saves weight right over the nose where you need it on a drag car.

    Of course the manual racks are valved/geared a bit differently to make life a little easier for you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shady milkman View Post
    for how much shit i give you old man i understand were you and 67 are coming from. already with my car i am wanted to pick up a more comfortable DD, like a g8 gt ..so i can have a good sound system, and a quiet cabin, and A/C, and a back seat and large trunk, and a smooth ride.

    but none the less..you two are still old
    Just remember this whippersnapper: "Old age and treachery will overcome youth and enthusiasm every time!"

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    Quote Originally Posted by 67CamaroRSSS View Post
    Just remember this whippersnapper: "Old age and treachery will overcome youth and enthusiasm every time!"
    this is true

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    I guess I'll check the price of the belt and see if it's worth it. I've gone without power steering in cars before, it's not a big deal once you get moving, well maybe in mine it will because the littlest bump throws me a ft off the road it seems like.

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    Quote Originally Posted by allbaugh_04 View Post
    I guess I'll check the price of the belt and see if it's worth it. I've gone without power steering in cars before, it's not a big deal once you get moving, well maybe in mine it will because the littlest bump throws me a ft off the road it seems like.
    That bump steer you are feeling is common with these wide front tires that have most of the offset to the inside of the wheel. Nature of the beast.
    It's one reason I've never been a fan of the fat front tires on anything.

    I don't remember the price of the belt, but they are relatively inexpensive. I find stuff like that worthwhile just for the fun of experimenting,,,even if it doesn't yield anything.

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    After reading all this, I'm glad I ain't old yet. In the middle still LOL. Glad I'm not in my early 20s either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Too Fast View Post
    After reading all this, I'm glad I ain't old yet. In the middle still LOL. Glad I'm not in my early 20s either.
    Why? I miss my early 20s...

    I got 275s to protect the rim a bit, but yea, it doesn't like to stay on the road unless I'm on a good flat highway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Too Fast View Post
    Glad I'm not in my early 20s either.

    Amen to that. I feel sorry for all the youngins nowadays trying to make it out there. Even people in their 30's that aren't quite established yet are having a hard time. Economy sucks, house market is crap, and finding jobs out there???? Well good luck.

    Naaa,,,I wouldn't want to be young and starting out either right now.

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    ^^^For a lot of the reasons these guys said, is why I don't miss my early 20s.



    Quote Originally Posted by allbaugh_04 View Post
    Why? I miss my early 20s...

    I got 275s to protect the rim a bit, but yea, it doesn't like to stay on the road unless I'm on a good flat highway.
    When I was 20 something, I didn't have a wife or kids, or as many toys as I do now, nor a house to keep them in. Yeah I was free to do whatever, but still, I like where I am now.

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    i like my early 20s just fine. nothing is sagging yet and my reflexes are just getting to their prime....however my wallet could use some help getting to its full potential

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    Quote Originally Posted by shady milkman View Post
    i like my early 20s just fine. nothing is sagging yet and my reflexes are just getting to their prime....however my wallet could use some help getting to its full potential
    Maybe we should refraise this...instead of just being young again scenario.

    How about being young again in the late 60's or 70's. Now that I would go for

    It's this day and age that scares me now more than anything.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Firebirdjones View Post

    How about being young again in the late 60's or 70's.
    for the cars hell yes..for the social climate for me in particular ..i may pass


    anywho i will be picking up a short belt to try at the track...im going to do everything possible to get me a 13 flat or a 12.9

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