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    Removing A/C belt add any HP?

    I know when it's not in use it probably only takes a few more ponies to turn that motor, maybe 1-2, what do you guys think?

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    Not worth the effort.

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    Quote Originally Posted by allbaugh_04 View Post
    I know when it's not in use it probably only takes a few more ponies to turn that motor, maybe 1-2, what do you guys think?
    I think I agree with you, 1-2. Won't be able to tell any difference, but everything counts right?

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    I put a new belt on last night. I don't think I could tell a difference, still runs like a raped ape.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shady milkman View Post
    i run without mine. clutch went bad........i dont notice shit, but the hot ass air when i am driving
    In that case I'd ditch the whole system. Unless you plan on fixing it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by INMY01TA View Post
    In that case I'd ditch the whole system. Unless you plan on fixing it.
    in the fall and winter months i dont miss it..but like yesterday with 90 degree heat and near 100% humidity...i get the urge to fix it.

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    We used to do something similar back when these cars were new,,,but I don't hear much about it anymore.

    We would remove the A/C belt because that was a freeby. But we also installed a shorter main drive belt that would bypass the power steering pump as well. It would pick the car up about 2 tenths. We did both at the same time so I can't vouch for the effectiveness of one or the other. But I would venture to say the power steering was the biggest change.

    Keep in mind this was back when there wasn't any aftermarket for these cars yet, and people were finding ways to sneak all they could.

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    Is there a belt that bypasses the A/C and power steering? Link?

    Just curious. I doubt it would add much power, but you say .2?

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    The AC is a seperate belt. So that's a freeby.

    But yes there is a belt that bypasses the power steering pump, and a certain way to route it through the pulleys. I don't even know if I have that belt laying around anymore or not.

    We were experimenting with this back when my buddy bought his 98 WS6 brand new in late 97. I think there were barely headers on the market at that time. So we were looking at doing alot of easy mods that have been proven for many years, one of which was bypassing accessories.

    Ya the car picked up something like 2 tenths. It was easy to switch in the pits, and then put the stock belt back on for the drive home. I haven't heard or seen anything about it in 10 years or more on these LS1's, but maybe if I search around on the net I might still be able to find something about it.

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    Wow 2 tenths just to bypass the PS. Need to do this mod before my next drag strip....

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    It was something like that. Can't remember the exact numbers but it was a worth while switch on his car.
    Everyone probably won't see the same results, but it's so easy and cheap to do that it's worth a shot anyway.

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    A/C belt is pretty easy too, just gotta get the jack under there. I need a quick pump jack, speaking of...

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    The compressor is shut off by the PCM at WOT so why bother.

    As for the PS pump: You ever try to turn the wheel with rack and pinion, the car not moving and the PS pump out? With 245mm wide tires it's more than difficult, it's damn near impossible.

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    51.5" 6 rib belt is required to bypass PS. Good for 3-4hp...they say...

    http://books.google.com/books?id=kL8...20belt&f=false

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    Quote Originally Posted by 67CamaroRSSS View Post
    The compressor is shut off by the PCM at WOT so why bother.

    As for the PS pump: You ever try to turn the wheel with rack and pinion, the car not moving and the PS pump out? With 245mm wide tires it's more than difficult, it's damn near impossible.

    I'd leave well enough alone.


    Wimp.........

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    I've heard one tenth for the short belt. Haven't tried myself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 67CamaroRSSS View Post
    The compressor is shut off by the PCM at WOT so why bother.

    As for the PS pump: You ever try to turn the wheel with rack and pinion, the car not moving and the PS pump out? With 245mm wide tires it's more than difficult, it's damn near impossible.

    I'd leave well enough alone.
    This is kind of true....but it is a well documented issue with ac compressors getting screwed because they didn't shut down in time as I am pretty sure it is shutdown according to rpm. Also the small amount of turning at the track shouldn't be to bad...but once again I am a young buck
    Quote Originally Posted by Firebirdjones View Post
    Wimp.........
    Must be a geezer thing..sure you don't have the gzr rpo code for 2 power steering pumps and the extra large gauges and steering wheel??

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    Quote Originally Posted by 67CamaroRSSS View Post
    The compressor is shut off by the PCM at WOT so why bother.

    As for the PS pump: You ever try to turn the wheel with rack and pinion, the car not moving and the PS pump out? With 245mm wide tires it's more than difficult, it's damn near impossible.

    I'd leave well enough alone.
    Yup I do it everytime at the track. I have always called it short belting. IIRC on mine I saw a .3 drop in et. If the car is barley moving it can be tough. But once you have a little speed not bad. I did it with 245mm wide tires. But once you go to skinnies it is not bad also.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shady milkman View Post

    Must be a geezer thing..sure you don't have the gzr rpo code for 2 power steering pumps and the extra large gauges and steering wheel??
    It's all those years of driving manual steer cars, I have had plenty of time to build a tollerance to it

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