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    DD tires?

    Hi guys. I need to get me some tires soon. I just do DD in my car. No track time. I'm looking for some decent tires nothing high end. My last set were about $120 each balanced with road hazard. I had Fuzion's and Primewells. They were good tires no issues.

    Any other suggestions on DD tires? I have to change these brands because I'm not using my tire place anymore. I was looking at Sam's Club. They pretty much sell BF goodrich and michelin tires. Thanks.

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    I'm pretty happy with my Nitto NT450 Extremes for a good high performance street tire. I believe someone else on here commented on the NT555s and said they liked them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JayTA98 View Post
    Hi guys. I need to get me some tires soon. I just do DD in my car. No track time. I'm looking for some decent tires nothing high end. My last set were about $120 each balanced with road hazard. I had Fuzion's and Primewells. They were good tires no issues.

    Any other suggestions on DD tires? I have to change these brands because I'm not using my tire place anymore. I was looking at Sam's Club. They pretty much sell BF goodrich and michelin tires. Thanks.
    what size tires are you looking to get?

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    I'm currently on the Nitto NT555 Extremes. Front 255/40R17 and rear 275/40R17. Cost me about $640.

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    I got Yokohama S-drives (all 4 stock size on stock rim), suppose to be comparable to a street nitto. I have no complaints so far, I'll spin through 2nd, squawk 3rd, and wear seems to be decent so far after 3 years. But, mine isn't a DD. $700 total I think (at least at the most), so $175 max per tire.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2001camaroSS View Post
    what size tires are you looking to get?
    245/50ZR16's

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    Quote Originally Posted by JayTA98 View Post
    245/50ZR16's
    these are the best (based on consumer ratings) all season tire that tirerack sells. i realize the price is a little more than u said but they are currently offering a $70 rebate which makes it a whole lot better. http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires....omCompare1=yes. These dont look bad either if you want to spend less money http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires....omCompare1=yes

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    I'm extremely happy with my NT555's. They're nice and smooth riding, quiet, and they're great in the rain. They also hook very well on the street and at the track.
    I can't spin them at the track, and on the street I have make an effort to get them to spin. This is with A 2.73 geared A4, btw.

    I wouldn't reccomend them if you livedin a cold climate and had to drive in snow, but I see you're in FL, so a summer tire like the 555 will be fine for a year round DD.

    Mine doesn't get driven in winter, which is why I went with a summer tire instead of an all season.

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    Our car came with a set of Falkens that have worked real well.

    Here's a listing from Tire Rack that has been filtered for what I think you are asking for: TIRES

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    Running on BFGoodrich G-Force Sport tires. Just had them put on only a few days ago. Outstanding grip, very quiet in road noise, and a very smooth ride. I'm impressed so far. Hasn't rained yet so I haven't been able to check wet traction, but I'm sure it will be great for being a summer tire. If anything changes in the later miles, I'll be sure to post, but so far, excellent in my book. Roughly $150 a tire from Discount Tire.
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    Quote Originally Posted by StuntmanMike View Post
    I'm extremely happy with my NT555's. They're nice and smooth riding, quiet, and they're great in the rain. They also hook very well on the street and at the track.
    I can't spin them at the track, and on the street I have make an effort to get them to spin. This is with A 2.73 geared A4, btw.

    I wouldn't reccomend them if you livedin a cold climate and had to drive in snow, but I see you're in FL, so a summer tire like the 555 will be fine for a year round DD.

    Mine doesn't get driven in winter, which is why I went with a summer tire instead of an all season.
    My M6 has no problems spinning these tires

    I like 'em, so far best tire I've ever had.

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    There's a couple of other good threads on this, search for them if you haven't already, get some more info...

    I am a fan of Michelin Pilot Sport A/S Plus. So much better than the Sumitomos that were on there before, noticeably better in the rain, 45,000 mile rating, nice smooth ride, great reviews from product testers and individual users. Comparable to the BFGoodrich G-Force Sport...

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    I've got Firestone Wide-Oval Indy 500's in 275/40-17's that I'm extremely happy with. I was first concerned with hydroplane resistance (central Florida downpours), then ride, then dry handling. They have exceded my expectations.

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    thanks for all the feedback guys.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pajeff02 View Post
    Our car came with a set of Falkens that have worked real well.

    Here's a listing from Tire Rack that has been filtered for what I think you are asking for: TIRES
    Pajeff my wheels are 16". I don't have WS6. Thanks anyway

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    I have a question. Do the tires need to be "Z"? I mean 245 50Z R16?
    Because it restricts me in options at my tire place. they have to special order the ones that have "Z" not matter what size.

    Can someone explain me the tire numbers as far as how to tell which one will be taller or smaller and the width? I can't remember. I know R16 is the wheel size.

    Does the tires had to have this "Z" rating? or can i get 245 50 R16? Thanks.

    Also has anyone order tires from tire rack? if so how does it works?
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    The "Z" is the speed rating.

    From Tirerack

    Early tires had their speed rating symbol shown "within" the tire size, such as 225/50SR16. Tires using this type of branding were not to have been produced after 1991.

    225/50SR16 112 mph, 180 km/h
    225/50HR16 130, 210 km/h
    225/50VR16 in excess of 130 mph, 210 km/h


    Beginning in 1991, the speed symbol denoting a fixed maximum speed capability of new tires must be shown only in the speed rating portion of the tire's service description, such as 225/50R16 89S. The most common tire speed rating symbols, maximum speeds and typical applications are shown below:

    L 75 mph 120 km/h Off-Road & Light Truck Tires
    M 81 mph 130 km/h
    N 87 mph 140km/h Temporary Spare Tires
    P 93 mph 150 km/h
    Q 99 mph 160 km/h Studless & Studdable Winter Tires
    R 106 mph 170 km/h H.D. Light Truck Tires
    S 112 mph 180 km/h Family Sedans & Vans
    T 118 mph 190 km/h Family Sedans & Vans
    U 124 mph 200 km/h
    H 130 mph 210 km/h Sport Sedans & Coupes
    V 149 mph 240 km/h Sport Sedans, Coupes & Sports Cars


    When Z-speed rated tires were first introduced, they were thought to reflect the highest tire speed rating that would ever be required, in excess of 240 km/h or 149 mph. While Z-speed rated tires are capable of speeds in excess of 149 mph, how far above 149 mph was not identified. That ultimately caused the automotive industry to add W- and Y-speed ratings to identify the tires that meet the needs of new vehicles that have extremely high top-speed capabilities.

    W 168 mph 270 km/h Exotic Sports Cars
    Y 186 mph 300 km/h Exotic Sports Cars


    While a Z-speed rating still often appears in the tire size designation of these tires, such as 225/50ZR16 91W, the Z in the size signifies a maximum speed capability in excess of 149 mph, 240 km/h; the W in the service description indicates the tire's 168 mph, 270 km/h maximum speed.

    225/50ZR16 in excess of 149 mph, 240 km/h
    205/45ZR17 88W 168 mph, 270 km/h
    285/35ZR19 99Y 186 mph, 300 km/h


    Most recently, when the Y-speed rating indicated in a service description is enclosed in parentheses, such as 285/35ZR19 (99Y), the top speed of the tire has been tested in excess of 186 mph, 300 km/h indicated by the service description as shown below:

    285/35ZR19 99Y 186 mph, 300 km/h
    285/35ZR19 (99Y) in excess of 186 mph, 300 km/h


    As vehicles have increased their top speeds into Autobahn-only ranges, the tire speed ratings have evolved to better identify the tires capability, allowing drivers to match the speed of their tires with the top speed of their vehicle.
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    Quote Originally Posted by blackcar View Post
    The "Z" is the speed rating.

    From Tirerack

    Early tires had their speed rating symbol shown "within" the tire size, such as 225/50SR16. Tires using this type of branding were not to have been produced after 1991.

    225/50SR16 112 mph, 180 km/h
    225/50HR16 130, 210 km/h
    225/50VR16 in excess of 130 mph, 210 km/h


    Beginning in 1991, the speed symbol denoting a fixed maximum speed capability of new tires must be shown only in the speed rating portion of the tire's service description, such as 225/50R16 89S. The most common tire speed rating symbols, maximum speeds and typical applications are shown below:

    L 75 mph 120 km/h Off-Road & Light Truck Tires
    M 81 mph 130 km/h
    N 87 mph 140km/h Temporary Spare Tires
    P 93 mph 150 km/h
    Q 99 mph 160 km/h Studless & Studdable Winter Tires
    R 106 mph 170 km/h H.D. Light Truck Tires
    S 112 mph 180 km/h Family Sedans & Vans
    T 118 mph 190 km/h Family Sedans & Vans
    U 124 mph 200 km/h
    H 130 mph 210 km/h Sport Sedans & Coupes
    V 149 mph 240 km/h Sport Sedans, Coupes & Sports Cars


    When Z-speed rated tires were first introduced, they were thought to reflect the highest tire speed rating that would ever be required, in excess of 240 km/h or 149 mph. While Z-speed rated tires are capable of speeds in excess of 149 mph, how far above 149 mph was not identified. That ultimately caused the automotive industry to add W- and Y-speed ratings to identify the tires that meet the needs of new vehicles that have extremely high top-speed capabilities.

    W 168 mph 270 km/h Exotic Sports Cars
    Y 186 mph 300 km/h Exotic Sports Cars


    While a Z-speed rating still often appears in the tire size designation of these tires, such as 225/50ZR16 91W, the Z in the size signifies a maximum speed capability in excess of 149 mph, 240 km/h; the W in the service description indicates the tire's 168 mph, 270 km/h maximum speed.

    225/50ZR16 in excess of 149 mph, 240 km/h
    205/45ZR17 88W 168 mph, 270 km/h
    285/35ZR19 99Y 186 mph, 300 km/h


    Most recently, when the Y-speed rating indicated in a service description is enclosed in parentheses, such as 285/35ZR19 (99Y), the top speed of the tire has been tested in excess of 186 mph, 300 km/h indicated by the service description as shown below:

    285/35ZR19 99Y 186 mph, 300 km/h
    285/35ZR19 (99Y) in excess of 186 mph, 300 km/h


    As vehicles have increased their top speeds into Autobahn-only ranges, the tire speed ratings have evolved to better identify the tires capability, allowing drivers to match the speed of their tires with the top speed of their vehicle.
    thanks. for the info. So i guess I have to stick with the Z rating then.

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    Yeah it's speed rating. R is the normal rating for passenger cars, means the tire is good for running at like 110 mph under load. Z is like 150 mph. Z used to be the 'highest' rating, that's why it's 'Z'. But faster sports cars have come along, so they've had to revamp the rating, and now W and Y are faster rated.

    So I guess R would really be ok so long as you're not going to be hotrodding over 100mph. I'm not sure what happens if you exceed speed rating, if it's just not guaranteed to be balanced, or if the tire could become damaged...

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    Bah, Blackcar put together more/better info while I was typing my little response. I feel so redundant and useless

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    Quote Originally Posted by Schmalgar View Post
    Yeah it's speed rating. R is the normal rating for passenger cars, means the tire is good for running at like 110 mph under load. Z is like 150 mph. Z used to be the 'highest' rating, that's why it's 'Z'. But faster sports cars have come along, so they've had to revamp the rating, and now W and Y are faster rated.

    So I guess R would really be ok so long as you're not going to be hotrodding over 100mph. I'm not sure what happens if you exceed speed rating, if it's just not guaranteed to be balanced, or if the tire could become damaged...

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    Bah, Blackcar put together more/better info while I was typing my little response. I feel so redundant and useless
    Thanks. lol no you are taking the time to give me some input back and thats what counts.
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