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This is a discussion on biggest tire i can run within the Wheels and Tires forums, part of the General Help category; thanks for the info guys, i guess ill have them make them 10.5'' and hope those 295's dont rub once ...

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    thanks for the info guys, i guess ill have them make them 10.5'' and hope those 295's dont rub once im lowered

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    Quote Originally Posted by Y2KPewterSS View Post
    I would avoid spacers at all costs. If you MUST run spacers, you better upgrade your wheel studs to ARP hardened studs. Spacers will sheer your studs. Buddy of mine, was in his 02 TA, CCW wheels, and his passenger rear tire went rolling in front of him going down the highway. His spacers sheered the the studs. I just wouldn't run spacers for any reason at all to be honest.

    Yes to the adjustable panhard, you will need to re-center the rearend after lowering.

    I looked up some 295/35/17 tires on tirerackdotcom and looked at their specs. They all fit 10"-11" wheels, so you should be fine with 295s on a 10" wheel. Some tires do vary in their specs, so double check the specific tire specs when you purchase it.
    like the goodyear GSD (sp) tires..some of the widest tires you get..their 315 are like 320-325

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    Mini Tub it, and get a different wheel with a different backset.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MAXX2 View Post
    Mini Tub it, and get a different wheel with a different backset.

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    he said he doesnt want to bfh his car...what makes you think he would want to minitub it ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by shady milkman View Post
    like the goodyear GSD (sp) tires..some of the widest tires you get..their 315 are like 320-325
    Correct, and Nitto 315s are not as wide as most other 315s either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Y2KPewterSS View Post
    I would avoid spacers at all costs. If you MUST run spacers, you better upgrade your wheel studs to ARP hardened studs. Spacers will sheer your studs. Buddy of mine, was in his 02 TA, CCW wheels, and his passenger rear tire went rolling in front of him going down the highway. His spacers sheered the the studs. I just wouldn't run spacers for any reason at all to be honest.

    Yes to the adjustable panhard, you will need to re-center the rearend after lowering.

    I looked up some 295/35/17 tires on tirerackdotcom and looked at their specs. They all fit 10"-11" wheels, so you should be fine with 295s on a 10" wheel. Some tires do vary in their specs, so double check the specific tire specs when you purchase it.
    I'm not a fan of spacers either.

    However, Eibach makes some nice ones specifically for our cars - same exact bolt pattern, hub and lug centric, CNC aluminum, and they come with new grade 8 hardened studs.

    I have them in the front to clear the Brembo calipers, but now I need them in the rear as well because my 285's (18x9.5" wheel, 56mm offset) are rubbing the inner fender well...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wesman View Post
    I have them in the front to clear the Brembo calipers, but now I need them in the rear as well because my 285's (18x9.5" wheel, 56mm offset) are rubbing the inner fender well...
    bfh? or was that done already?

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    Quote Originally Posted by shady milkman View Post
    yes on the panhard bar...what happens when you widen the wheel it changes the offset ..so spacers may be needed.
    Shady hit the nail on the head here

    The stock WS6 wheel has a 50mm offset. To widen them correctly and have less issues they would need to be done on both the front and backside of the wheel.
    Adding material to the outside of the wheel reduces the offset adding it to the inside increases the offset. And there is a maximum and minimum offset that works

    heres a link to tell you what works
    http://www.ls1tech.com/forums/wheels...must-read.html

    Basically if you widen the wheels and increase the offset greater then 56mm then you will have to do the BFH mod. if you go shorter then 45mm then you'll probably have to roll the fenderlips.

    Seems like alot of headache just to fit X size tire. JMO
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    In other words the backspacing would need to be increased

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    Quote Originally Posted by tatertot91 View Post
    In other words the backspacing would need to be increased
    By widening the wheels on the back side the backspacing already increases. The problem is to keep from doing the BFH mod he can only add 6mm (less then a 1/4") to the backside of the wheel. But if he's willing to use spacers (to move the mounting point back and change the offset) he can add more material.
    Also like said above if you use spacers you will need to get stronger and longer wheelstuds (ARP), which usually requires the axles to be pulled to install them.

    Again a lot of work to install X size tire.

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    The offset would increase but the backspacing would stay the same

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    how many inches are we talking between a 315 and 295.....i know its probably not even a full inch but how much are we talking? 1/2''? 1 inch?

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    Quote Originally Posted by basballny2 View Post
    how many inches are we talking between a 315 and 295.....i know its probably not even a full inch but how much are we talking? 1/2''? 1 inch?
    Not exactly sure, but 295s are definitely a noticeable difference versus 275s. My guess would be a little closer towards an inch. Maybe 3/4 minimum
    Then again it all depends on the manufacturer

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    Quote Originally Posted by tatertot91 View Post
    The offset would increase but the backspacing would stay the same
    Not so, if you change one you change both.
    That is unless you add material to the mounting face, which is what a spacer is used for.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 9T8W66 View Post
    Not so, if you change one you change both.
    That is unless you add material to the mounting face, which is what a spacer is used for.
    Gotcha, i was thinking backwards. Don't know why. For some reason i kept thinking off the front face of the wheel towards the mounting surface.

    But like said before, stay away from spacers
    Bad news IMO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tatertot91 View Post
    Gotcha, i was thinking backwards. Don't know why. For some reason i kept thinking off the front face of the wheel towards the mounting surface.

    But like said before, stay away from spacers
    Bad news IMO.
    I agree seems to me that it would be more cost effective to just buy some aftermarket wheels in the correct size and offset.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 9T8W66 View Post
    I agree seems to me that it would be more cost effective to just buy some aftermarket wheels in the correct size and offset.
    If there was a way to add some lip to the wheel, by that i mean leave the backspacing the same but increase the size of the wheel and do it for around the same price as a new set of wheels, im sure more people would be doing that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tatertot91 View Post
    If there was a way to add some lip to the wheel, by that i mean leave the backspacing the same but increase the size of the wheel and do it for around the same price as a new set of wheels, im sure more people would be doing that.
    Agreed, but also an aftermarket wheel is just as much used as a personal statement. As in more people don't want their car to look like everyone elses.
    Thing is the wider tire and wheel isn't necessarilly helping traction as much as it's increasing unsprung weight. Which requires more power to get the heavier wheel spinning.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 9T8W66 View Post
    Agreed, but also an aftermarket wheel is just as much used as a personal statement. As in more people don't want their car to look like everyone elses.
    Thing is the wider tire and wheel isn't necessarilly helping traction as much as it's increasing unsprung weight. Which requires more power to get the heavier wheel spinning.
    I agree on the personalization, but then again you could compare to camaros and z06 wheels. It looks good but how any people have them. I know plenty of people who would rather have stock wheels but want the look of a 315 tire, like 11" ZR1s.

    Still waiting to hear what the OP is going to do.
    As far as i'm concerned 295 is still pretty wide and i think he would be pretty happy with it.

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    well, when it comes to this stuff im clueless, im having my rims sent out to get widened .... how wide to i have to make it to safely fit a 315 on it? im keeping the stock look but having the 2 rears widened

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