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This is a discussion on Zaino Pc within the Showcar and Detailing forums, part of the General Help category; Originally Posted by LETHALxLS1 The difference is- Zaino is a "cover up" and the swirls will come back while 3M ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by LETHALxLS1 View Post
    The difference is- Zaino is a "cover up" and the swirls will come back while 3M has polishes designed to remove swirls, scratches, and oxidation when used with a buffer and the correct foam buffing pads.

    What 3M products were you using? Did you use them by hand or with a buffer?
    Zaino PC is an abrasive, not a "filler" or "cover up". It removes the swirls.

    http://www.zainostore.com/Merchant2/...roduct_Count=6

    " Introducing Zaino Fusion - Dual Action Paint Cleaner Swirl Remover

    • Safely removes minor scratches, swirls, oxidation, wax buildup and other blemishes
    • Features the world's first true self-dissolving, fused tri-particulate, diminishing abrasive system
    • 100% compatibility with all painted surfaces and Zaino paint products
    • Water-based formula means no mess, no staining, and easy clean up - no fillers or oils
    • Can be used in sun or shade on cool surfaces
    • VOC compliant
    • Perfect your paint with Zaino Z-PC Fusion

    NOTE: Zaino Z-PC Fusion IS ABRASIVE and should only be used when necessary. Z-PC Fusion is not intended for frequent use.

    For years, visual imperfections such as swirl marks, scuffs, scratches and buffer holograms were the scourge of perfectionists everywhere. They infected vehicles without any discrimination - show cars, daily drivers, imports, domestics and custom vehicles all suffered. But worry no more - Zaino, the world's leader in paint care technology, has the antidote for all of your paint ailments: Zaino Fusion Dual Action Paint Cleaner Swirl Remover ("Z-PC").

    Featuring the world's first (and only) true, self-dissolving, fused tri-particulate, diminishing abrasive system, Zaino Z-PC Fusion is just what the paint doctor ordered for your vehicle. Whether your paint is suffering from spider-webbing, minor scuffmarks, or a fully developed case of the swirls, Zaino Z-PC Fusion has the cure. And best of all, it works equally well when used by hand or machine, making it as versatile as it is effective!

    Thanks to Zaino's advanced, fused tri-particulate, self-dissolving diminishing abrasive system, swirls and other defects are safely removed from your vehicle's paint. The ultra-intelligent abrasives gently and carefully knockdown high spots on your car to reveal an extremely smooth, super-reflective, mile-deep shine. Swirl marks and other blemishes will literally disappear before your eyes, and they'll stay away - Zaino Z-PC Fusion contains no fillers or oils.

    With Zaino Z-PC Fusion, you'll be amazed by how deep, glossy, clean, and blemish-free your paint looks, and you'll love the compatibility that it provides. Unlike other paint prep products that are typically loaded with cheap oils and fillers, the water-based formula of Zaino Z-PC Fusion requires no washing afterward - just apply and remove Zaino Z-PC Fusion and go straight to applying your favorite Zaino protectant. Further, there's virtually no effort required to apply and remove Zaino Z-PC Fusion. Just wipe it on, work it in (either by hand or machine) and wipe it off.

    Zaino Z-PC Fusion is perfect for any type of paint - from single-stage paints to clear-coated finishes to gel-coats, Zaino Z-PC Fusion will bring out the best in your paint. Metallics will sparkle! Pearls will pop! Reds will scream, "Pull me over," and your black paint will never have looked so smooth. It's perfect for domestic cars, European cars and imports. So whether you're driving a super-exotic performance car or just running the kids around town, be confident that no other paint cleaner is as advanced, effective and easy to use as Zaino Z-PC Fusion is.

    So say good-bye to swirl marks, scuffs, spider-webbing, and other annoying paint defects. Zaino Z-PC Fusion takes your paint to a whole new level - one that's certain to drive other enthusiasts insane with jealousy!"

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    Quote Originally Posted by LETHALxLS1 View Post
    The difference is- Zaino is a "cover up"


    Believe me Zaino does nothing in the way of "covering up"... Not even does Z5 do little.

    Its all in your prep......
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    I have many different 3M polishes and compounds. My biggest problem with them is that they are a bitch to wipe off. The Zaino PC comes off just like Z2 does.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Y2KPewterSS View Post
    Zaino PC is an abrasive, not a "filler" or "cover up". It removes the swirls.

    http://www.zainostore.com/Merchant2/...roduct_Count=6

    " Introducing Zaino Fusion - Dual Action Paint Cleaner Swirl Remover

    • Safely removes minor scratches, swirls, oxidation, wax buildup and other blemishes
    • Features the world's first true self-dissolving, fused tri-particulate, diminishing abrasive system
    • 100% compatibility with all painted surfaces and Zaino paint products
    • Water-based formula means no mess, no staining, and easy clean up - no fillers or oils
    • Can be used in sun or shade on cool surfaces
    • VOC compliant
    • Perfect your paint with Zaino Z-PC Fusion

    NOTE: Zaino Z-PC Fusion IS ABRASIVE and should only be used when necessary. Z-PC Fusion is not intended for frequent use.

    For years, visual imperfections such as swirl marks, scuffs, scratches and buffer holograms were the scourge of perfectionists everywhere. They infected vehicles without any discrimination - show cars, daily drivers, imports, domestics and custom vehicles all suffered. But worry no more - Zaino, the world's leader in paint care technology, has the antidote for all of your paint ailments: Zaino Fusion Dual Action Paint Cleaner Swirl Remover ("Z-PC").

    Featuring the world's first (and only) true, self-dissolving, fused tri-particulate, diminishing abrasive system, Zaino Z-PC Fusion is just what the paint doctor ordered for your vehicle. Whether your paint is suffering from spider-webbing, minor scuffmarks, or a fully developed case of the swirls, Zaino Z-PC Fusion has the cure. And best of all, it works equally well when used by hand or machine, making it as versatile as it is effective!

    Thanks to Zaino's advanced, fused tri-particulate, self-dissolving diminishing abrasive system, swirls and other defects are safely removed from your vehicle's paint. The ultra-intelligent abrasives gently and carefully knockdown high spots on your car to reveal an extremely smooth, super-reflective, mile-deep shine. Swirl marks and other blemishes will literally disappear before your eyes, and they'll stay away - Zaino Z-PC Fusion contains no fillers or oils.

    With Zaino Z-PC Fusion, you'll be amazed by how deep, glossy, clean, and blemish-free your paint looks, and you'll love the compatibility that it provides. Unlike other paint prep products that are typically loaded with cheap oils and fillers, the water-based formula of Zaino Z-PC Fusion requires no washing afterward - just apply and remove Zaino Z-PC Fusion and go straight to applying your favorite Zaino protectant. Further, there's virtually no effort required to apply and remove Zaino Z-PC Fusion. Just wipe it on, work it in (either by hand or machine) and wipe it off.

    Zaino Z-PC Fusion is perfect for any type of paint - from single-stage paints to clear-coated finishes to gel-coats, Zaino Z-PC Fusion will bring out the best in your paint. Metallics will sparkle! Pearls will pop! Reds will scream, "Pull me over," and your black paint will never have looked so smooth. It's perfect for domestic cars, European cars and imports. So whether you're driving a super-exotic performance car or just running the kids around town, be confident that no other paint cleaner is as advanced, effective and easy to use as Zaino Z-PC Fusion is.

    So say good-bye to swirl marks, scuffs, spider-webbing, and other annoying paint defects. Zaino Z-PC Fusion takes your paint to a whole new level - one that's certain to drive other enthusiasts insane with jealousy!"
    My mistake LOL!!! BUT- when done with Zaino PC fusion- Zaino reccomends the use of Z5 to finish the process and guess what it does? Fills

    Z-5 PRO -is the perfect choice for detailing enthusiasts, amateurs, and professionals alike. Thanks to its advanced, non-abrasive, micro-filler polymer technology, Z-5 PRO fills and hides minor surface imperfections even better than before - owners of dark cars (black, blue, green, red) will take delight in knowing that with just a few simple applications, swirl marks, spider webbing, and other surface headaches will become nothing more than a distant memory.

    If Zaino PC fusion removed all the swirls why would they reccomend finishing the process with Z5-which, in its description, is a filler?
    Last edited by LETHALxLS1; 04-27-2008 at 01:26 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 4get gto View Post
    Believe me Zaino does nothing in the way of "covering up"... Not even does Z5 do little.

    Its all in your prep......

    Thats odd-you say Z5 isn't a cover up? Here is the description taken right from the Zaino website-

    Z-5 PRO -is the perfect choice for detailing enthusiasts, amateurs, and professionals alike. Thanks to its advanced, non-abrasive, micro-filler polymer technology, Z-5 PRO fills and hides minor surface imperfections even better than before - owners of dark cars (black, blue, green, red) will take delight in knowing that with just a few simple applications, swirl marks, spider webbing, and other surface headaches will become nothing more than a distant memory.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lucky 13 View Post
    Use a 50/50 mix alc/water when wiping off a compound or cutting polish
    Agreed

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    Quote Originally Posted by LETHALxLS1 View Post
    Thats odd-you say Z5 isn't a cover up? Here is the description taken right from the Zaino website-

    Z-5 PRO -is the perfect choice for detailing enthusiasts, amateurs, and professionals alike. Thanks to its advanced, non-abrasive, micro-filler polymer technology, Z-5 PRO fills and hides minor surface imperfections even better than before - owners of dark cars (black, blue, green, red) will take delight in knowing that with just a few simple applications, swirl marks, spider webbing, and other surface headaches will become nothing more than a distant memory.
    I know.....Would be great if it worked as well as it said it does.

    Not saying it doesn't help "alittle".....

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    Quote Originally Posted by LETHALxLS1 View Post
    My mistake LOL!!! BUT- when done with Zaino PC fusion- Zaino reccomends the use of Z5 to finish the process and guess what it does? Fills

    Z-5 PRO -is the perfect choice for detailing enthusiasts, amateurs, and professionals alike. Thanks to its advanced, non-abrasive, micro-filler polymer technology, Z-5 PRO fills and hides minor surface imperfections even better than before - owners of dark cars (black, blue, green, red) will take delight in knowing that with just a few simple applications, swirl marks, spider webbing, and other surface headaches will become nothing more than a distant memory.

    If Zaino PC fusion removed all the swirls why would they reccomend finishing the process with Z5-which, in its description, is a filler?
    I never said Z5 wasn't a filler.

    They recommend it using it after ZPC because they know there are people out there that don't know what they are doing and still need the filler help

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    Quote Originally Posted by Y2KPewterSS View Post
    I never said Z5 wasn't a filler.

    They recommend it using it after ZPC because they know there are people out there that don't know what they are doing and still need the filler help
    lol.... people like me

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    Quote Originally Posted by Y2KPewterSS View Post
    I never said Z5 wasn't a filler.

    They recommend it using it after ZPC because they know there are people out there that don't know what they are doing and still need the filler help
    I agree . Z5 is only half way good when used on a perfectly good finish to begin with.

    It does leave a nice finish though.........

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    Quote Originally Posted by 4get gto View Post
    I agree . Z5 is only half way good when used on a perfectly good finish to begin with.

    It does leave a nice finish though.........


    As with anything, painting, polishing, detailing, prep is ALWAYS the key to the end results. There is no product in the world that you can simply slap onto a vehicle and it makes the car look flawless. It takes prep and work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Y2KPewterSS View Post
    I never said Z5 wasn't a filler.

    They recommend it using it after ZPC because they know there are people out there that don't know what they are doing and still need the filler help
    Never said you did. Just quoting what Zaino reccomends. You are applying these products by hand-correct? I seriously doubt your hand application skills can be much better,if any, than anyone elses. The truth is-that ZPCF needs to be followed with a filler because it doesnt remove all swirls-otherwise they wouldnt tell you to follow up the process with Z5-a filler . There are products that can achieve a swirl free finish without the need to follow up with fillers to hide swirls but none of them work by hand- and almost all are 2 step polishes that require a buffer with the correct pad.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LETHALxLS1 View Post
    Never said you did. Just quoting what Zaino reccomends. You are applying these products by hand-correct? I seriously doubt your hand application skills can be much better,if any, than anyone elses. The truth is-that ZPCF needs to be followed with a filler because it doesnt remove all swirls-otherwise they wouldnt tell you to follow up the process with Z5-a filler . There are products that can achieve a swirl free finish without the need to follow up with fillers to hide swirls but none of them work by hand- and almost all are 2 step polishes that require a buffer with the correct pad.
    ZPC can be used with a buffer as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Y2KPewterSS View Post
    ZPC can be used with a buffer as well.
    LOL Have you ever considered a career in politics? Just joking man!

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    Quote Originally Posted by LETHALxLS1 View Post
    LOL Have you ever considered a career in politics? Just joking man!
    I have been told that before. I hate politics though and don't like being involved in them, even though I know how to play politics

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sarge View Post
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    Hahahahahahahha!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Y2KPewterSS View Post
    I have been told that before. I hate politics though and don't like being involved in them, even though I know how to play politics
    long time no see...as always p is being a damn know it all....

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