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This is a discussion on Wet sanding within the Showcar and Detailing forums, part of the General Help category; does anyone know how much it costs to get a car wet sanded? any experiences? pics? thanks...

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    Wet sanding

    does anyone know how much it costs to get a car wet sanded?
    any experiences?
    pics?
    thanks

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    anyone?

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    You can do it yourself for almost no cost. What are you trying to achieve? I have some experience on my 01 Blue Formula and also a 68 Safari Yellow Corvette. You can get excellent results if you are careful and patient.

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    im afraid to mess it up
    im trying to get rid of all the scratches that i have
    they r deep scratches and wont go away with buffing
    when i wax or polish, they go away untill it rains
    thats y i want to get it done

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    Wet sanding.

    Wet sanding or also know as "color sanding" is only meant for the very surface of your paint. It is not intended to remove deep scratches as you have described. You can brush touch up your deep scratches and then wet sand with a flat block using 1200 or 1500 grit wet/dry paper. Body shops do this all the time with near perfect results.
    It appears you have a "Metalic" paint job. Many metalic jobs are two stage. A metalic base coat and a clear coat over it. If that is yours, you must be careful not to go through the outer clear coat. If you have no experience doing this, I wouldn't try to learn on a nice car. I don't trust most body shops either. A high end shop like Mercedes or such would be my best choice. The buffing after sanding is as critical as the sanding. There is a minimum of 20hrs involved in the entire process. Not cheap for a really good job. If you practice on an old fender untill you feel confident, the sand paper and rubbing compound are relatively cheap. It might take you 40 hrs for a good job. Good luck. Old body man, Al

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    should i just fill in the deep scratches with some touch up paint and then have it professionally buffed out?

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    Fill em in.

    That will work. Ask the body shop that does the buffing to wet sand your touch up first. It should look good. Al

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    cool, thanks for your help!

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    What kind of wax/polish are you using to hide the scratches with?

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    sorry i took so long to reply...
    i usually use this stuff called zymol

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    Is it better to paste wax or liquid the scatches?

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    ive tried both
    they go away untill it rains...
    im getting it buffed out this week
    its the only way to get rid of the scratches

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    Quote Originally Posted by adham View Post
    should i just fill in the deep scratches with some touch up paint and then have it professionally buffed out?
    I would have the whole car buffed out first. If you find somebody who knows how to use a rotary machine, he can take out all the imperfections. You will then see where you're at with the scratches, and start filling them up (touch-ups)and then sand them flush. As a rule of thumb, if you can feel the scratch with your finger nail, it is too deep.
    I have a GM Touch-up Paint (brush) and the Touch-up Magic. I bought both at my local dealership.

    Touch-up Magic
    There are two other products that I have not personally tried, but I see people trying it with success:
    TouchUp 123 and Langka which has some good info and instructions on their webpage
    Last edited by Z06-Goose; 01-04-2007 at 12:14 PM.

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    thats what i plan on doing this week...i will try to post some pics

    Quote Originally Posted by Z06-Goose View Post
    I would have it buffed the whole car out first. If you find somebody who knows how to use a rotary machine, he can take out all the imperfections. You will then see where you're at with the scratches, and start filling them up (touch-ups)and then sand them flush. As a rule of thumb, if you can feel the scratch with your finger nail, it is too deep.
    I have a GM Touch-up Paint (brush) and the Touch-up Magic. I boought both at my local dealership.

    Touch-up Magic
    There are two other products that I have not personally tried, but I see people trying it with success:
    TouchUp 123 and Langka which has some good info and instructions on their webpage

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    Quote Originally Posted by Z06-Goose View Post
    I would have it buffed the whole car out first. If you find somebody who knows how to use a rotary machine, he can take out all the imperfections. You will then see where you're at with the scratches, and start filling them up (touch-ups)and then sand them flush. As a rule of thumb, if you can feel the scratch with your finger nail, it is too deep.
    I have a GM Touch-up Paint (brush) and the Touch-up Magic. I boought both at my local dealership.

    Touch-up Magic
    There are two other products that I have not personally tried, but I see people trying it with success:
    TouchUp 123 and Langka which has some good info and instructions on their webpage
    did the touch up magic work well with u?
    i tried using the touch up paint but it looked horrible...

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    I don't drive my car in the rain anymore, but when I did, Zaino would hold up even in rain.

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    Quote Originally Posted by adham View Post
    did the touch up magic work well with u?
    i tried using the touch up paint but it looked horrible...
    This thing doesn't work 100% perfect. So, a little patience will be needed. The success is pretty much dependant on your own abilities. My skills are so-so
    What I did was to apply the paint on the scratch and let it set for about 15-20mins. The paint tends to sink into the scratch, so a few passes will allow you to have the paint over the paint surface. You have to wait like 15 minutes between passes, and with a plastic razor blade (my kit came with one) remove the excess of paint as flush as you can using the touch-up magic as an aid. Being my first time, the touch-up magic worked ok, but not the way I was expecting. I let the paint dry too long, I think my problem was.

    To this day, I still need to fix that scratch on my trunk area. I mean, the scratch is covered, just need a little sanding and the weather has not cooperated.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Z06-Goose View Post
    This thing doesn't work 100% perfect. So, a little patience will be needed. The success is pretty much dependant on your own abilities. My skills are so-so
    What I did was to apply the paint on the scratch and let it set for about 15-20mins. The paint tends to sink into the scratch, so a few passes will allow you to have the paint over the paint surface. You have to wait like 15 minutes between passes, and with a plastic razor blade (my kit came with one) remove the excess of paint as flush as you can using the touch-up magic as an aid. Being my first time, the touch-up magic worked ok, but not the way I was expecting. I let the paint dry too long, I think my problem was.

    To this day, I still need to fix that scratch on my trunk area. I mean, the scratch is covered, just need a little sanding and the weather has not cooperated.
    cool
    thanks for the help!

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    Quote Originally Posted by SiggyZ View Post
    I don't drive my car in the rain anymore, but when I did, Zaino would hold up even in rain.
    im gonna start using zaino after i get it buffed out...
    they offer many products...which polish/wax do u use?

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    For my finish I use Z-2 Pro, Z-5 Pro and ZFX (cure accelerator) and for in between washing/polishing I use either Z-6 or Z-8. Be sure you properly prep your finish before using the products as that is the most important means of getting the best results possible.

    Quote Originally Posted by adham View Post
    im gonna start using zaino after i get it buffed out...
    they offer many products...which polish/wax do u use?

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