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This is a discussion on swirl marks within the Showcar and Detailing forums, part of the General Help category; Ill admit it i was a dumbass and used turtle wax rubbing compound on my black car and now it ...

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    Ill admit it i was a dumbass and used turtle wax rubbing compound on my black car and now it looks horrible. It has scratches and swirls everywhere. If anybody knows what should I do now please tell me. I was lookingh at getting some meguiars Ultra cut compound is that the right thing to get? HELP!!!!

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    Why would you using rubbing compound? That is so abrasive.

    How bad is it? I would start with http://www.zainostore.com/Merchant2/...roduct_Count=6
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    i just looked at it and it was actually there polishing compound. its not real real bad but at night under lights it looks bad but in the day you can barely see it except for the passenger side door looks the worst

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    Thats not so bad. Then you may want to use this to fill in the minor scratches.

    http://www.zainostore.com/Merchant2/...oduct_Count=10

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    so i tried meguiars scratch x today and it took away some of the swirls but the scratches are def. still there. should i just order the zaino?

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    Read over the site before ordering. The first application will take some time. Some won't/can't take the time to use it.

    I use it on both my black vehicles and can't see any swirl marks.

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    I have a red car but I used z5, at first I was skeptical because I thought my paint looked hella good. But after using one coat of that it really does remove most of your swirls(in my case it did) but couldnt really tell on the tiny scratches but mine arent really noticable anyways

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    You could try a liquid wax over it to smooth it out. I usually use a hard wax, then a liquid wax to top it off. I use this stuff called liquid glass, its awesome, the body of the car actually feels smoother and softer after its used.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pony_Eater View Post
    Ill admit it i was a dumbass and used turtle wax rubbing compound on my black car and now it looks horrible. It has scratches and swirls everywhere. If anybody knows what should I do now please tell me. I was lookingh at getting some meguiars Ultra cut compound is that the right thing to get? HELP!!!!

    I just did the same thing on my black car. It had a bunch of imbedded marks in the paint, never know the cause with kids bicycles and shit up and down the driveway. Anyways I f'd up the paint today in three spots and you can see it a mile away. Maybe wet sanding ?

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    you must have feltlike shit, I woulda been PISSSED

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    I too have scrathes..

    NEVER use the water blade to dry the car. My bumper has scratch all down it..

    Nu Finsh is crap.

    Turle wax. ''Black'' Car polish with scratch remover is crap.

    And i hope my Zanio will do it.

    If not i guess ill pay bout 250 for a complete prof buff and polish/wax
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    Try 3M polish on a very very soft wool buffer. That is what the shop I work for does with fine scratches and swirls. Only do a 1 foot area at a time. Smaller is better in this kind of situation. Most marks occur when we are in a hurry and trying to "wax" or polish too big of an area at once.

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    IMO the only way to remove swirls and not just hide/cover them up(covering up swirls is useless because once you wash the car they come right back) is to use a buffer with the proper pad and a good swirl removing polish followed by a finishing polish. My car had bad scratches and swirls (I bought the car used and I think the previous owner let people sit on the hood with buttons etc on their jeans-idiot!) and Menzerna super intensive polish followed by Menzerna Nano polish made my paint/clearcoat look new again. I used a white Lake Country 7" polishing pads for both steps with my Porter Cable 7424 buffer. I then followed up with a thin coat of Pinnacle Souveran paste wax. It looks like this now-


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    I use a buffer at the last resort. Because you are actually removing the clear coat to hide the scratches.

    I would rather use Zaino to fill in the minor scratches.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ed Blown Vert View Post
    I use a buffer at the last resort. Because you are actually removing the clear coat to hide the scratches.

    I would rather use Zaino to fill in the minor scratches.


    Zaino offers only a product to take out "minor scratches" ...Nothing more...

    Z5 to fill........That has alot to be desired...

    Z-PC to polish out these "minor" swirls.. And it does this good.... But don't expect much more...
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    First of all. Zaino does not have anything that will fill-in scratches. If you think they do, then you'd need to define "scratches" so we understand what you're talking about

    The Z5 is advertised to fill-in swirls, and the results leave a lot to be desired. Not really a fill-in product as described. Very minimum on very light superficial swirls

    The ZPC is a mild polish at best. It's to me a finish polish more than it is a paint-correction type polish. You could get some results with a buffer and an orange pad, but don't espect to be much of a contender against the f-body hard clearcoat

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ed Blown Vert View Post
    I use a buffer at the last resort. Because you are actually removing the clear coat to hide the scratches.

    I would rather use Zaino to fill in the minor scratches.

    The amount of clear removed is very minimal if done correctly with the least aggressive polishing pad that you can get away with. This process takes the sharp edges off swirls/small scratches where they can't be seen. Like mentioned- the clear on F bodies is very hard.

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