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This is a discussion on Buffers within the Showcar and Detailing forums, part of the General Help category; Originally Posted by Z06-Goose Preston, if I have to recommend a good buffer for a "novice"...that will be the PC7424XP ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Z06-Goose View Post
    Preston, if I have to recommend a good buffer for a "novice"...that will be the PC7424XP
    The PC 7424 has been around for a while, and a lot of detailers have one in their arsenal of tools.
    The PC7424-XP is the newest version of the old 7424. The difference is that the XP has more power as in more power for correcting defect.
    The learning curve once you start to use it for the first time is of about 20 minutes.
    The PC7424 is very safe, and user friendly

    I sugest you get one of those instead. Later on, if you want to jump up to a rotary buffer, then you'll be able to make that decision with more certainty
    I have a rotary buffer, and to tell you the truth, I hardly use it
    I have the Flex3401 DA and does a good job

    Keep in mind that you still need to buy buffing pads when you order the PC or any buffer for that matter...

    Here's a very nice kit with everything you'll need to get started...

    http://www.detailedimage.com/DI-Pack...ct-description

    Let me know if you have any more questions I can help you with...
    I agree 100% - the PC 7424 has a easy learning curve and it would be hard to damage your paint. Just don't let your pad get dry and don't apply superman amounts of pressure. Usually the weight of the buffer alone is enough pressure.

    My car's paint was in terrible condition -my 7424 and the right products was all I needed.

    Oh- I also asked Goose many questions and he was cool enough to always help me out. Goose is the man!!!!

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    Porter Oribtal IMO...


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    http://www.autogeek.net/griots-rando...-polisher.html

    Griot's Garage 6 inch Random Orbital Polisher holds better amps in all power ranges than the ORGINAL PC .

    here is a write up on a guy that puts the PC7424 up to the Griot's
    http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/...vs-7424xp.html
    Last edited by NeedsaZ06; 10-31-2009 at 01:52 PM.

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    This Flex polisher is about twice the price as the XP and the Griots but it does cut twice as fast with the same materials. An Awesome tool to hang in the garage and but this is a step up from....noob

    http://www.autogeek.net/flex-orbital-polisher.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by Smittro View Post
    I use my hands, it's far to easy to burn your paint (if you're new). Takes longer sure but my paint is flawless, I'd fall over dead if it got damaged.. Sorry I know that does'nt help much..
    You will never burn paint with the PC7424 or the most random orbital polishers.....

    P....you can also see alot of results on Youtube. If you decide to go with the PC this is a great package to look into. It has the foam pad conditioner and cleaner, the PC7424XP and 5 CCS pads ( you choose the pads you want for the application )

    http://www.autogeek.net/hk7424.html

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    Good video, I am sold.

    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2XAqpOe9Zt4[/ame]

    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y7A5BCCb7Gg[/ame]
    Last edited by SHines-IT; 10-31-2009 at 03:02 PM.

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    That's some great information!

    Quote Originally Posted by Z06-Goose View Post
    Preston, if I have to recommend a good buffer for a "novice"...that will be the PC7424XP
    The PC 7424 has been around for a while, and a lot of detailers have one in their arsenal of tools.
    The PC7424-XP is the newest version of the old 7424. The difference is that the XP has more power as in more power for correcting defect.
    The learning curve once you start to use it for the first time is of about 20 minutes.
    The PC7424 is very safe, and user friendly

    I sugest you get one of those instead. Later on, if you want to jump up to a rotary buffer, then you'll be able to make that decision with more certainty
    I have a rotary buffer, and to tell you the truth, I hardly use it
    I have the Flex3401 DA and does a good job

    Keep in mind that you still need to buy buffing pads when you order the PC or any buffer for that matter...

    Here's a very nice kit with everything you'll need to get started...

    http://www.detailedimage.com/DI-Pack...ct-description

    Let me know if you have any more questions I can help you with...

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    Quote Originally Posted by SiggyZ View Post
    That's some great information!
    Thanks Sig!

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    Quote Originally Posted by NeedsaZ06 View Post
    You will never burn paint with the PC7424 or the most random orbital polishers.....

    P....you can also see alot of results on Youtube. If you decide to go with the PC this is a great package to look into. It has the foam pad conditioner and cleaner, the PC7424XP and 5 CCS pads ( you choose the pads you want for the application )

    http://www.autogeek.net/hk7424.html
    I saw a member on Autogeek who burned his paint with a 7424- it can be done. I believe he applied a assload of pressure to do it though. too abrasive pad and letting the pad get dry can build up alot of heat too. And another no-no- polishing in the sun.
    Last edited by LETHALxLS1; 10-31-2009 at 09:46 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SHines-IT View Post
    Good video, I am sold.




    I heard that Corvette and Camaro clearcoat is extremely hard compared to alot of other cars.


    Here is a dude that damadged his with a 7424-
    http://www.autopia.org/forum/machine...pc-7424-a.html


    All I am saying is- it is possible to burn the clear/paint with a 7424. Not that you or anyone who uses it right will.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Z06-Goose View Post
    Thanks Sig!

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    Preston, if you mess up that beautiful paint job...


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    i stand corrected if the guy did burn his paint. So you will never burn your paint if you have more than 3 brain cells....

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    Good info so far, keep it coming.

    I am not effing up my car tater

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    Quote Originally Posted by Y2KPewterSS View Post
    Good info so far, keep it coming.

    I am not effing up my car tater
    I'm just trying to make sure your careful

    Haven't seen any new pics of that SS for a while
    Make sure you take a few once its done

    i should actually look into some of this stuff
    Gotta a new paint job coming this month and gonna need to keep it nice

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    Quote Originally Posted by tatertot91 View Post
    I'm just trying to make sure your careful

    Haven't seen any new pics of that SS for a while
    Make sure you take a few once its done

    i should actually look into some of this stuff
    Gotta a new paint job coming this month and gonna need to keep it nice
    Took pics today, I am not gonna be doing anything to the Camaro with a buffer. The black areas on the hood and spoiler could use just a touch of work, but nothing major.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LETHALxLS1 View Post
    I heard that Corvette and Camaro clearcoat is extremely hard compared to alot of other cars.


    Here is a dude that damadged his with a 7424-
    http://www.autopia.org/forum/machine...pc-7424-a.html


    All I am saying is- it is possible to burn the clear/paint with a 7424. Not that you or anyone who uses it right will.
    I didn't read the whole post, but I'm having a hard time believing that guy could have possibly damaged/burn the paint using a PC let alone a blue pad and Menzerna PO85RD which are finishing products with zero cut and no bite at all

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    what about that mothers powerball for paint?
    anyone here tried that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by tatertot91 View Post
    what about that mothers powerball for paint?
    anyone here tried that?
    Its junk, no more needs to be said.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Y2KPewterSS View Post
    Its junk, no more needs to be said.
    At least i know now not to spend my money on that

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