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    Loking for a little more bass.

    I am looking to get a some more bass out of the subs in my car. I am just looking for a little more thump not anything crazy. I have replaced the 6.5 subs but they dont put out much. I was just wondering if you could put a small amp in to give them a little more power. I am not much of a stereo guy so I dont know if this be worth it or am I just wasting my time.
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    build a custom sub box with 2 12'' subs thats what i did. got no were for
    t-tops to go now but the bass is worth it

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    Quote Originally Posted by barryTA View Post
    build a custom sub box with 2 12'' subs thats what i did. got no were for
    t-tops to go now but the bass is worth it
    I wouldnt do that if you just want a lil bit more bass, Ive got a 10in punch in a truck box that fits nicely in the hatch area. I push it with a nice kenwood amp that sits right beside the sub. Its a pretty cheap setup that sound pretty good. I bought mine used for 100 for everything.

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    I really dont know if I want to spend that much money. I was just wondering if I could add a small amp to give my 6.5 subs a little more power.

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    you say you're not a stereo guy, so i'm going to assume you installed wrong speakers, or installed the ones you bought incorrectly.

    accusation 1: what speakers did you buy? are they dual 4ohms?

    accusation 2: how did you wire them?

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    Quote Originally Posted by krusemj View Post
    I really dont know if I want to spend that much money. I was just wondering if I could add a small amp to give my 6.5 subs a little more power.
    I have the factory "monsoon" dual voice coil rear midbass speakers remaining in my setup, i have them bridged running off a JL Audio amp through its crossover. For rock music i think they are awsome, nice and quick and powerful for factory speakers! To answer your question it did make a diffrence using a amp, it made them more clear and more powerful (not 12" sub powerfull though). I also use sound deadining which helps out with giving a solid sound too.

    I also have the custom JL Audo stelth box with a 10" sub in the back corner (beside the t-top area) for huge bass songs. It doesnt take up any room, i can use the t-top storage area still, its .75cu ft. and the bass is loud. I highly recommend that if you want to spend the money.

    If I were you, i would get a cheap 2 channel used NAME BRAND amp off e-bay for under $100 (with built in crossover preferred), and do it up. If your speakers are no good, there are lots of great midbass speakers with good power handling out there..

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    Quote Originally Posted by third_shift|studios View Post
    you say you're not a stereo guy, so i'm going to assume you installed wrong speakers, or installed the ones you bought incorrectly.

    accusation 1: what speakers did you buy? are they dual 4ohms?

    accusation 2: how did you wire them?
    You're probably right, they are probably wrong. I bought them awhile ago before I realised the monsoon was diffrent than a normal stereo. They are 4 ohms but I dont know about dual or anything. How should I have wired them I just took one + lead and one - lead. Like I said while I was a mechanic for 6 years my knowledge about stereos is pretty slim. Any help you could give me would be great.

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    Quote Originally Posted by krusemj View Post
    You're probably right, they are probably wrong. I bought them awhile ago before I realised the monsoon was diffrent than a normal stereo. They are 4 ohms but I dont know about dual or anything. How should I have wired them I just took one + lead and one - lead. Like I said while I was a mechanic for 6 years my knowledge about stereos is pretty slim. Any help you could give me would be great.
    Are you running factory wiring, the factory monsoon deck through the stock monsoon amp???

    On the back of your speakers, are there 1 or 2 SETS of + - leads?

    Could you send or post a photo -unless, do you know the make and model of the 6.5" or the power handling?


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    Everything but the speakers are factory. The speakers are JL Audio 6.5 subs. The have 2+ leads but they both go to the same place. I dont know the power rating. Are these speakers worth keeping cause right now they are basicly doing nothing. I can get some pics after work.

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    what about the amp and/or headunit settings...not sure if you have tuned it up nicely for some extra bump?

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    Well I have played with the settings on the hu quite a bit. It just dosent seem to make much of a difference. Most of the time you can barely tell the 6.5s are working even if you a sitting in the back seat.

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    JL Audo is very good, they do have entry level models, but they are all good in my opinion. For now don't change the speakers. I have a pair of JL amps and they are great!

    If your speakers have 2+ leads (on the same side of the speaker that are kinda connected together than i think you have a single voice coil which is the norm.).

    One thing that i will mention is that the factory head unit is ok, but it is designed to work with factory speakers only (ESPECIALLY if it is a monsoon system with different ohm ratings). Another thing to note about factory head units is that they will decrease the bass level at high volumes to protect the speakers, so an amp will still help a lot but when its very loud the outputs (from the H/U) will decrease the bass output signal to the amp. Under normal to moderate loudness it will work fine.
    Speaking of adding an amp to your factory H/U, you will need a hi level to RCA adaptor (e-bay $2-10) unless the amp has hi-level inputs. (talk to a installer)

    I believe you biggest problem is that you are using the factory wiring which could be dangerous to your JL's in terms of the Ohm rating. You need to run speaker wiring directly from your JL's to a 2 or 4 channel amp. The rear outputs from the h/u will go to the amp for signal (or to the hi level adapter first then RCA to amp).

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    I don't think he's endangering his JL "subs," but it sounds like he's running 4ohm woofers, when he should have 2ohm instead...

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    The wiring is a 4 wire plugin. What is the best way to hook it up. Should I use both + and - leads or just one of each. Any suggestions on what would be a good amp to get and how big of one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ScrapMaker View Post
    I don't think he's endangering his JL "subs," but it sounds like he's running 4ohm woofers, when he should have 2ohm instead...
    Your right he is possibly not endangering the JL's now, and though 2ohm MIGHT be better for factory setup thats not the goal here.

    When he gets a 4 channel amp, he could bridge the amp into 2 channel 4ohm for maximum power output which is what i would do in his case especially if his JL's like lots of power. Most inexpensive amps only like to go down to 4 ohm when bridged.

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    Quote Originally Posted by krusemj View Post
    The wiring is a 4 wire plugin. What is the best way to hook it up. Should I use both + and - leads or just one of each. Any suggestions on what would be a good amp to get and how big of one.
    Ok, im back to confused to if this speaker is a DVC or SVC.
    Can you post pictures?

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    I was talking about the wiring from the car. So you would go with a 4 channel amp.

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    I guess if you are dead-set on using your current SVC 4 ohm speakers, then you will need a new amp... yes.

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    Well what would be the best way to go without spending to much money.

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