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This is a discussion on Headers within the GTO forums, part of the Vehicle Specific category; Do you need to buy the mid pipes with the headers on an 04 gto? or will they bolt up ...

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    Do you need to buy the mid pipes with the headers on an 04 gto? or will they bolt up to stock exhaust?

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    I can't help you but I have a question an thought this would be a good place to put it. I cut out my cats and I currently have it dumped with magnaflows, before that I had dynomax bullets on it. I don't really like the sound of my exhaust on my car and I read somwhere on here that me cutting my cats out that I lost TQ. So what is a good muffler and somthing to help me get that TQ. back. And I like loud and droning in the car doesn't bother me. Hopefully sarge will help me out?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Quick_burk_GTO View Post
    Do you need to buy the mid pipes with the headers on an 04 gto? or will they bolt up to stock exhaust?
    Well you need to put more info in your ?.

    Yes and No. It all depends on who's headers you have bought. Some are a "mid" length that connect to factory type mid pipes. Others offer a full length primary tube merging into a regular collector which would require an after market set of mid pipes.
    Don't be afraid of the bottle!!! Be afraid of your tune!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Quick_burk_GTO View Post
    Do you need to buy the mid pipes with the headers on an 04 gto? or will they bolt up to stock exhaust?
    yes or use the stock cats what headers are you looking at buying,the only diffrence in the 04-06 gto is the mids back mostly cause the 04 has the same side exit on the exhaust.
    mods: custom built twins, built 408 w/l92 stock GM heads,GM matching intake,drag bags,frame ties,aluminum drive shaft, performabuilt 4l80e,Yank converter,ohios fastest and quickest 04-06 GTO 9.52 at 144mph. 1.50 60ft on stock rear end and shafts/suspension,on drag radials.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doug_J View Post
    I can't help you but I have a question an thought this would be a good place to put it. I cut out my cats and I currently have it dumped with magnaflows, before that I had dynomax bullets on it. I don't really like the sound of my exhaust on my car and I read somwhere on here that me cutting my cats out that I lost TQ. So what is a good muffler and somthing to help me get that TQ. back. And I like loud and droning in the car doesn't bother me. Hopefully sarge will help me out?
    cutting off thr cats won't make you lose tq
    pacesetter longtube headers, flowmaster super 44's and 3" true duals made me happy

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    the stainless works headers and the pacesetters both have been on my car they both require mid pipes and they are called off road pipes thus eliminating the cats otherwise the stock cats need to be thrown out they cost you around 8hp.if you want something thats sounds good and makes you power get a stainless one peice xpipe.I have the x pipe on my setup no mufflers at all except the muffler bearings ..
    heres a shot of how mine looks keep in mind ,mine is setup for my turbos.thus the vband clamps .

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    Thank you for the help, but our cars sit kinda low, where do I hang a set of super 44's?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doug_J View Post
    Thank you for the help, but our cars sit kinda low, where do I hang a set of super 44's?




    Hopefully you don't since they don't flow for shit!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doug_J View Post
    Thank you for the help, but our cars sit kinda low, where do I hang a set of super 44's?
    you can hang about any size mufflers up where the factory muffs were on the 05-06,I had bullet mufflers on mine back when it was NA

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doug_J View Post
    Thank you for the help, but our cars sit kinda low, where do I hang a set of super 44's?
    I have a set of 3" bullet mufflers right off the headers (cut and rewelded the ends at an angle) and slid a set of 3" 44's on the end of the bullets so the outlets are right next to the driveshaft, then ran dual 3" strait out the back on each side of the diff.
    the 44' s are a world apart from the 80 series, they flow so much better

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    heres a clip of mine wth them bullets.

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    I have bullets cut em off to try magnaflows, I liked how loud it was but to much pop souded like a ricer to me.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by qwkgto View Post
    heres a clip of mine wth them bullets.
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    sounds sweet. is the clip with or without the turbos?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mark21742 View Post
    sounds sweet. is the clip with or without the turbos?
    thanks, this was prior to the turbos, this exhaust was built by me has 3 inch stainless,one peice x-pipe,3 inch dynomax bullet muffler then the factory tips,my turbos do not have mufflers,they are the mufflers .here one of the twins as you can see they exit from the turbine heat side to the factory tips,i love the stealth effect

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    Quote Originally Posted by qwkgto View Post
    thanks, this was prior to the turbos, this exhaust was built by me has 3 inch stainless,one peice x-pipe,3 inch dynomax bullet muffler then the factory tips,my turbos do not have mufflers,they are the mufflers .here one of the twins as you can see they exit from the turbine heat side to the factory tips,i love the stealth effect
    Click for full size
    rear mount twins? how do you like them vs standard front mount?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mark21742 View Post
    rear mount twins? how do you like them vs standard front mount?
    I love them ,they work very well,cost a lot less then the so called kits,dont have all the mess or heat up front in the engine compartment,proof is in the facts..here is a clip I just ran 8.23.08 the other guy has a build motor mine is stock he has a APS kit with 10 psi,mine had 10 psi with broken valve springs(inners) I still put a few bus lenghts on him,OH also this guy is a tuner has tuned a lot of the buckeye states GTOs.


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    i drive a volvo big truck for a living and was REALLY thinking and wondering if I could get one of those big 5 inch tubos to work and perform well on the goat... there is lots of room behind the irs once you takeout all the stupid plastic panels

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    Quote Originally Posted by mark21742 View Post
    i drive a volvo big truck for a living and was REALLY thinking and wondering if I could get one of those big 5 inch tubos to work and perform well on the goat... there is lots of room behind the irs once you takeout all the stupid plastic panels
    lol na thats too big youd need 10,0000 gazillion rpms to turn it,putting them back there takes some engineering.

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    Quote Originally Posted by qwkgto View Post
    lol na thats too big youd need 10,0000 gazillion rpms to turn it,putting them back there takes some engineering.
    Or a 200 shot in front of it to spool it. . . . . . . .

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    Quote Originally Posted by LS2Tuner View Post
    Or a 200 shot in front of it to spool it. . . . . . . .
    either way the usable RPM would not be addiquate for the motor u want to run.

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