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This is a discussion on Been testing Oil within the GTO forums, part of the Vehicle Specific category; Posting my results after 3 weeks. I am trying this on both my cars a 2006 GTO and a 2005 ...

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    Posting my results after 3 weeks. I am trying this on both my cars a 2006 GTO and a 2005 Lexus. So far I have noticed that they both start faster, idle smother and have better throttle response. I have not seen any increase in mileage, but if I can get these kind of results for a fraction of the cost of other fuel treatments I think it's a great idea.

    Thanks for posting up the info Sarge.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Racer-X View Post
    Thanks, glad to be here but my question remaines unanswered. You really need a frequency of oil changes before and after you started this program. How many miles between changes?
    OK you lost me....your asking me about the oil OCI's in the test vehicles and I'm struggling to understand the correlation here....help me out....
    Last edited by Sarge; 08-07-2008 at 05:03 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by qwkgto View Post
    so im wondering what effect it will have on my boosted Goat? cooling and cleaning effects?
    I'm gonna be running it in my Blown 07 Silverado....so I guess we'll both see at the same time.....I cannot see how in the world it would effect us....I'm running a meth injection kit also...you running any meth?

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    I hate to say it, but I'm cheap. I got my lawn mower for free last year (not running). the carb was horrible ($175.00 chock-a-matic) so I tore it apart and cleaned the hell out of it...still didn't run great...8 tanks of the mix run threw it so far and I swear every tank it runs better....now Sarge you need to comeup with something to help me keep the deck level lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sarge View Post
    OK you lost me....your asking me about the oil OCI's in the test vehicles and I'm struggling to understand the correlation here....help me out....
    How often was the oil changed before you started testing?
    How often is the oil changed since you started testing?

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    Oil is changed every 3000 miles on the dot on my "test car"

    Helped out so much.

    Sarge doesnt skimp on oil.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Racer-X View Post
    How often was the oil changed before you started testing?
    How often is the oil changed since you started testing?
    Let me try it from this angle cuz I'm still lost here....
    We are talking about a fuel manipulation and your asking about engine oil change intervals. Help me out man....Most of the test cars have OCI's (engine oil) based on their particular UOA's and testing and fuel has nothing to do with it.

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    Not to beat this into the ground... but what do you think of this stuff, Sarge? I drove all over RI to hardware stores and home depot's and couldnt find any TC-W3 2 stroke oil. So I went to Cumberland Farms for a soda, and there this was, staring me in the face, so I bought some.

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    ^^^^^ If you look at the label next to the word Ashless, it is TC-W3. From what Sarge says as long as it is TC-W3 you should be good to go.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sarge View Post
    Let me try it from this angle cuz I'm still lost here....
    We are talking about a fuel manipulation and your asking about engine oil change intervals. Help me out man....Most of the test cars have OCI's (engine oil) based on their particular UOA's and testing and fuel has nothing to do with it.
    Sure it does. If you change your oil every 5k and then start changing it every 3k there will be less contaminates in it. Part of your test is sending the oil in to have it analyzed to see how much and what kind of contamination is in the oil. The contaminates will continue to drop until the sysem is flushed (some old oil remains everytime it is changed) this might take many changes hence my question about oil change intervils.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PatrizioD View Post
    Not to beat this into the ground... but what do you think of this stuff, Sarge? I drove all over RI to hardware stores and home depot's and couldnt find any TC-W3 2 stroke oil. So I went to Cumberland Farms for a soda, and there this was, staring me in the face, so I bought some.
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    TC W3...your good to go....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Racer-X View Post
    Sure it does. If you change your oil every 5k and then start changing it every 3k there will be less contaminates in it. Part of your test is sending the oil in to have it analyzed to see how much and what kind of contamination is in the oil. The contaminates will continue to drop until the sysem is flushed (some old oil remains everytime it is changed) this might take many changes hence my question about oil change intervils.
    LOL...your confused as hell....who is talking about changing OCI's? Not me nor anybody in this entire thread.....
    We are talking about adding 2stroke TC W3 rated oil in our fuel....as in gasoline.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sarge View Post
    Never apologize for asking good questions.....unless one of your questions is can I have beer out of your stash Sarge.....
    the stuff in gas is everything from water to dirt/silicon/pipeline greases...what we do with the 2 stroke stuff is capture it and burn it in the combustion process versus letting it settle out in the fuel system....no negative impact on any sensors/cats/tuning.....the oil coats and protects your upper cylinder and rings....protects your fuel system...this is why some of our test mules put out lower emissions when tested than before...better compression from the ring packs getting cleaned.....more efficient means more MPG and more importantly more RWHP and longer component life. A great discovery about all this is we are getting lower wear metals from the cylinder walls being coated thus lower wear metals at start up....I just ran 500 miles and sent a sample in to the lab and got the report back today.......lowest wear metals EVER>>>>>>Click for full size
    Is this not a report on the condition of the oil?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Racer-X View Post
    Is this not a report on the condition of the oil?
    Dayum son the question was asked if the fuel treatment had any impact on the UOA. The answer was no....and the UOA report was shared.....had nothing to do with OCI's. Nothing at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sarge View Post
    Dayum son the question was asked if the fuel treatment had any impact on the UOA. The answer was no....and the UOA report was shared.....had nothing to do with OCI's. Nothing at all.
    So, the oil report showed no difference in a before or after sample. One would think that it would show less heavy metals content being that the 2 cycle oil was added to the fuel, if it were doing any good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Racer-X View Post
    So, the oil report showed no difference in a before or after sample. One would think that it would show less heavy metals content being that the 2 cycle oil was added to the fuel, if it were doing any good.
    Huh? Your saying a fuel add should lower bearing wear materials? I'm totally lost on where your going or your rational.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sarge View Post
    Huh? Your saying a fuel add should lower bearing wear materials? I'm totally lost on where your going or your rational.
    No, upper cylinder, piston and ring wear. Your basically lubricating the top end.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Racer-X View Post
    No, upper cylinder, piston and ring wear. Your basically lubricating the top end.
    you shouldnt get that much noticable material from the top end unless you have big problems, most particles will come from only the bottom end (bearing wear)

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