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    auto, or manual shift auto?

    ok I posted a thread last week about killing my a4 in the goat and looking for opinions on which direction I should go.

    sofar I have or have on the way all the goodies to build a stage 4 a4: Hughes race overhaul kit (kevlar clutches, steels, bushings, Raptor input kit with Beast sun shell, sprag, planetaries and transgo race upgrade shift kit.

    my question is, the shift kit gives me the choice of staying full auto, or full manual shift......any opinions and pros or cons are welcome. I wouldn't mine needing to shift it.

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    Do it up manny style. Another thing that I found thats pretty cool is a planetary gear splitter from Gear Vendors (I think). Its called the Over/Underdrive, and can effectively double the forwards gears. Just a thought; I think it would be fun to have a 12-speed manual, or in your case an 8 speed
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    Quote Originally Posted by PatrizioD View Post
    Do it up manny style. Another thing that I found thats pretty cool is a planetary gear splitter from Gear Vendors (I think). Its called the Over/Underdrive, and can effectively double the forwards gears. Just a thought; I think it would be fun to have a 12-speed manual, or in your case an 8 speed
    I've seen a setup that bolts on the back of the tranny (like a spliter on a big truck) to do what your talking about too. it drops your top gear output down to .5:1 that way you can run super tall gears for the track and then drive home under normal low rpms on the highway

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    Only problem I see is the factory shifter would need changed if you go to a manual shift auto,ive been down that path a time or two,otherwise you could go to far or hit a gear you dont want,the shifters are limited for an overdrive trans being they need 4 spots in forward gears.

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    Quote Originally Posted by qwkgto View Post
    Only problem I see is the factory shifter would need changed if you go to a manual shift auto,ive been down that path a time or two,otherwise you could go to far or hit a gear you dont want,the shifters are limited for an overdrive trans being they need 4 spots in forward gears.
    I've got a B&M megashifter laying on the work bench right now to take care of that, I just need to fab up a bracket or two
    I have a shift light to mount on the A pillar, where is the easiest place to get a tach signal? is there a wire running to the cluster I can tap into?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mark21742 View Post
    I've got a B&M megashifter laying on the work bench right now to take care of that, I just need to fab up a bracket or two
    I have a shift light to mount on the A pillar, where is the easiest place to get a tach signal? is there a wire running to the cluster I can tap into?
    I would reccomend the coils,not positive the wire on the ls1 maybe the green wire is signal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by qwkgto View Post
    I would reccomend the coils,not positive the wire on the ls1 maybe the green wire is signal.
    looked on ls1gto this morning, brown wire/red stripe going into the cluster on the 04....05/06 is different....this might actually be easy!

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    is there a reason you are not supposed to activate the (in hptuners/ engine/ general) master shift light if you are running an automatic?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mark21742 View Post
    is there a reason you are not supposed to activate the (in hptuners/ engine/ general) master shift light if you are running an automatic?
    I am not sure what you are asking? never used a shift light with my A4,only if i was using a manual shift Auto,is that what you are doing?
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    Quote Originally Posted by mark21742 View Post
    ok I posted a thread last week about killing my a4 in the goat and looking for opinions on which direction I should go.

    sofar I have or have on the way all the goodies to build a stage 4 a4: Hughes race overhaul kit (kevlar clutches, steels, bushings, Raptor input kit with Beast sun shell, sprag, planetaries and transgo race upgrade shift kit.

    my question is, the shift kit gives me the choice of staying full auto, or full manual shift......any opinions and pros or cons are welcome. I wouldn't mine needing to shift it.
    If I had to do it again i do manual.that way damn thing is easier to tune and shifts when u want it too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by qwkgto View Post
    I would reccomend the coils,not positive the wire on the ls1 maybe the green wire is signal.
    I found it but forgot to post it.
    brown wire, with a red stripe going into the gauge cluster, or all brown wire in the white plug down by the driverside kick panel.......to get it to work right you MUST have the light set to 4 cylinder lol I beat my head against the wall for awhile on that.....guess it only reads tach signal from one bank? I don't know

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    Quote Originally Posted by qwkgto View Post
    I am not sure what you are asking? never used a shift light with my A4,only if i was using a manual shift Auto,is that what you are doing?
    the stock shift light in the gauge cluster is the "up shift light" I was talking about, I did a bunch of reading and learned the pinout the M6 uses for this is used for the 1-2, or 2-3 shift solinoid in the A4.

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    Quote Originally Posted by qwkgto View Post
    If I had to do it again i do manual.that way damn thing is easier to tune and shifts when u want it too.
    also learned something else! this is a good one too!
    go into hptuners > trans > shift properties > general (perf option) .......stock it is set to "No Switch", change it to "two Switches"
    need 2 momentary switches run to ground, run one wire from switch A to pinout 71 (this gives you performance shift and let's you run two different tranny tunes by changing the "performance" setings it the tranny section

    next run a wire from switch B to pinout 31, when you hit this button it throughs the tranny in manual shift mode!

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    nice.

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    I picked up the switches, wire and pins today, and have the programing done. now I just have to hook them up, mount them and reflash the computer!


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