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VIDEO! Z28(me) vs 5.0 Cammed

This is a discussion on VIDEO! Z28(me) vs 5.0 Cammed within the Kill Stories forums, part of the Racing Forums category; Originally Posted by Rikki_SeVeN it's a Magnaflow X... it sounds really nice... headers are elCheapo from Summit... Normally flowchokers and ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rikki_SeVeN View Post
    it's a Magnaflow X... it sounds really nice... headers are elCheapo from Summit...
    Normally flowchokers and X pipes sound like crap but the Magnaflow X is a different design. Headers are just headers, should work. I meant to ask, long tube or shorties.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mogs01gt View Post
    Normally flowchokers and X pipes sound like crap but the Magnaflow X is a different design. Headers are just headers, should work. I meant to ask, long tube or shorties.
    ouh... well they are Long Tube...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rikki_SeVeN View Post
    ouh... well they are Long Tube...
    cool, he should be after the tune well over 260rwhp and 300rwtq. Which cam is he running? I hope not the shitty e303 cam.
    Last edited by mogs01gt; 12-02-2008 at 10:03 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mogs01gt View Post
    cool, he should be after the tune well over 260rwhp and 300rwhp. Which cam is he running? I hope not the shitty e303 cam.
    300rwtq**

    yeah... I don't know the cam, all I know is that it has like 280 lift... or something...(I don't know much about cams)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rikki_SeVeN View Post
    300rwtq**
    yeah... I don't know the cam, all I know is that it has like 280 lift... or something...(I don't know much about cams)
    yeah sounds like the e303 cam.
    Duration 282/ 282, Lift .498/ .498,
    Last edited by mogs01gt; 12-02-2008 at 10:03 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mogs01gt View Post
    yeah sounds like the e303 cam.
    Duration 282/ 282, Lift .498/ .498,
    in any case I'll ask him later

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    Quote Originally Posted by mogs01gt View Post
    That is pretty pathetic. My buddies same year of 5.0 put down 225hp with an off road mid pipe, mufflers and AC delete.
    Sounds like your buddy put his car on an inflated dyno if you ask me. Especially if his car is an SN95 5-0.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cayenne97 View Post
    Sounds like your buddy put his car on an inflatable dyno if you ask me. Especially if his car is an SN95 5-0.
    No that is right on when you remove the cats. They dont put down 160rwhp like stated before. Normally in the 190-200s for the 5.0s and 180-190s for the 4.6s(96-98). Removing the cats is an easy 15hp.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mogs01gt View Post
    No that is right on when you remove the cats. They dont put down 160rwhp like stated before. Normally in the 190-200s for the 5.0s and 180-190s for the 4.6s(96-98). Removing the cats is an easy 15hp.
    Hmm...I've never seen gains quite that high. Not calling B.S. or anything like that though. I have a lot of experience w/ 5.0's and 4.6's, have owned a couple, and the usual gains I saw from an off-road H-pipe were around 10rwhp. I agree that 160whp stock doesn't sound right.

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    you have obviously never been to PR... down here, with all the humidity and heat... most cars throw down low numbers...and considering it is a 14 year old car... the numbers seems about right

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rikki_SeVeN View Post
    you have obviously never been to PR... down here, with all the humidity and heat... most cars throw down low numbers...and considering it is a 14 year old car... the numbers seems about right
    What is PR? Yeah I obviously don't go there much. And what does the year of a car have to do with anything? I just put a 15 year old '93 Z28 M6 w/ 127k miles on the rollers and it was right where it should of been. As long as a motor is in sound condition years don't mean much.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cayenne97 View Post
    Hmm...I've never seen gains quite that high. Not calling B.S. or anything like that though. I have a lot of experience w/ 5.0's and 4.6's, have owned a couple, and the usual gains I saw from an off-road H-pipe were around 10rwhp. I agree that 160whp stock doesn't sound right.
    Its pretty common actually. Mustangs gain nothing from catbacks, everything is gained from removing the cats and the larger mid pipe. I put 257 down to the wheels with just long tube headers, no cats and a catback.

    Quote Originally Posted by Cayenne97 View Post
    What is PR? Yeah I obviously don't go there much. And what does the year of a car have to do with anything? I just put a 15 year old '93 Z28 M6 w/ 127k miles on the rollers and it was right where it should of been. As long as a motor is in sound condition years don't mean much.
    Well my buddies 5.0 was low mileage, I think like 15k.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mogs01gt View Post
    Its pretty common actually. Mustangs gain nothing from catbacks, everything is gained from removing the cats and the larger mid pipe. I put 257 down to the wheels with just long tube headers, no cats and a catback.

    Depends on the year. 5.0's actually do get a few from just a cat-back alone, similar gains to what i've seen LT1's get from just a CB. Now i'm not sure with the two-valve, but I do know four-valves ('96-98) gain nothing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cayenne97 View Post
    Depends on the year. 5.0's actually do get a few from just a cat-back alone, similar gains to what i've seen LT1's get from just a CB. Now i'm not sure with the two-valve, but I do know four-valves ('96-98) gain nothing.
    The major problem with catbacks is that everyone goes with the flowmasters 5.slows. My buddy has dynomax dumps but I think on his old 5.0 engine, the AC delete gave him a nice jump on power. Well he has plugs, ignition and wires but that is just standard maintenance stuff.

    It runs high 13s with traction.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mogs01gt View Post
    The major problem with catbacks is that everyone goes with the flowmasters 5.slows. My buddy has dynomax dumps but I think on his old 5.0 engine, the AC delete gave him a nice jump on power. Well he has plugs, ignition and wires but that is just standard maintenance stuff.

    It runs high 13s with traction.
    Your buddy is a good driver! My '90 25th Anniv. GT wen't 14.9x/93 in stock form. I bumped the timing up to 12* BTDC, short-belt swap, removed stock air box, removed rear sway bar and got in the mid 14's. After Flowtech long-tubes, Flowtech X-pipe, Flowmaster 1-chambers I was still in the 14's on street rubber.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cayenne97 View Post
    Your buddy is a good driver! My '90 25th Anniv. GT wen't 14.9x/93 in stock form. I bumped the timing up to 12* BTDC, short-belt swap, removed stock air box, removed rear sway bar and got in the mid 14's. After Flowtech long-tubes, Flowtech X-pipe, Flowmaster 1-chambers I was still in the 14's on street rubber.
    His is on DR's but with Summit Racing brand control arms. His battery is in the trunk as well. His best time was with two 12'' subs in the trunk to.

    ohh shit, I forgot he has an aluminum driveshaft as well. Im not sure if dyno numbers are affected by driveshafts that much

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cayenne97 View Post
    What is PR?
    rikki is from puerto rico

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    Here is a dyno graph of a stock fox body from Florida. The lower number is the car with an auto, the bigger is after the stock t5 5spd swap.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hutch1999 View Post
    rikki is from puerto rico
    Yeah I know. I see it in his Avator box.

    Quote Originally Posted by mogs01gt View Post
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    Here is a dyno graph of a stock fox body from Florida. The lower number is the car with an auto, the bigger is after the stock t5 5spd swap.
    Now those numbers look dead on for a stock 5-speed 5-0.

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