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This is a discussion on trans am vs. any srt models within the Kill Stories forums, part of the Racing Forums category; Originally Posted by big hammer charger--- 4200/425= 9.9 lbs\hp ls1fbod--- 3550/350= 10.1 lbs\hp i dont see the big hp\lb difference ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by big hammer View Post
    charger--- 4200/425= 9.9 lbs\hp

    ls1fbod--- 3550/350= 10.1 lbs\hp


    i dont see the big hp\lb difference

    He's looking at the rated number of 300-325 for the F-Body. You are exactly right since the F-Body was underated.

    Try this. RWHP

    Charger 4200/370 = 11.35 lbs/hp

    LS1 Fbod 3550/315 = 11.26 lbs per hp.

    Pretty darn close.

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    Quote Originally Posted by big hammer View Post
    charger--- 4200/425= 9.9 lbs\hp

    ls1fbod--- 3550/350= 10.1 lbs\hp


    i dont see the big hp\lb difference
    givin the areodynamics difference fbod will win.



    my aunt-in-law has an 08 srt cherokee and her and her hubby say it will walk vettes. i just cant wait till they grow the bawls to race me. they tell me there is no point to race an old z28

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    Have you ever seen those Cherokees take off??? 0-60 in like a heartbeat. They are fast as shit out of the hole, but then aerodynamics take over every second.
    Not a fan of Mopar at all, but I do respect vehicles that put what power they have to the pavement no matter what they are.
    A friend of mine has one and out of the hole he will smoke my ass. By 80 I'm coming with a full head of steam though and will pass him every time.

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    what are the srt-8's dynoing at the wheels stock

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    Quote Originally Posted by Superluminal View Post
    Guide for the stockish to bolt-ons F-body:

    SRT-4: Run these FWD guys from a dig, and you'll win every time. Refuse the roll request.... some are very fast with the right turbo setup.

    SRT-8 CHARGER: These things are boats, but have a good amount of horsepower. It should be a drivers race with a slight advantage to the F-body. They respond well to bolt-ons... beware.

    SRT-8 CHALLENGER: Same as the Charger. They are a bit heavy, but have a decent amount of power. Again, should be a drivers race. They also respond well to bolt ons.... beware.

    SRT-10 RAM: These aren't to difficult to beat in stock form. If you can drive your F-body, you shouldn't have a problem. They're effectiveness drops on the top end due to poor aerodynamics and weight.

    SRT-10 VIPER: Bring at least a heads/cam setup or don't even try. If you're car isn't trapping in the solid 120mpg range, you don't stand a chance.

    BTW, all these cars are gay....
    I agree with pretty much everything, especially the last part. I've lost to a charger, but I had stock tires and full exhaust. Approx. 320rwhp and he had 380rwhp. He pulled me by a few cars.

    Srt-4s can be very quick from a roll, go with a dig as said before.

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    Quote Originally Posted by big hammer View Post
    what are the srt-8's dynoing at the wheels stock
    Most of the peole that I've seen with SRT8's are posting 370 stock with a few in the high 360's and a couple as high as 390.

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    Quote Originally Posted by justinmc978 View Post
    sure he was racing? ha
    yea im sure it was racing the wouldnt need any more then a catback to beat one they are not hard to beat, all i have on my 6 Speed WS6 is a Lid, Catback and a Cutout and i have yet to loose to any SRT-8 car, truck or SUV and i have raced alot of them

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zinergy View Post
    12.85 @ 108mph and you hanvet lost to any f-bodys? You must not be racing too many, i went a 12.8 @ 111mph with 3 bolt ons and a tune in my m6 f-body. Any cammed or better f-body would rick roll you.
    thats what i was thinking to when he said that, my old 2k Auto WS6 had full bolt ons, stock stall and street tires and it went 12.62@111.3 and i never lost to any charger, challenger or Cherokee

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    Quote Originally Posted by allbaugh_04 View Post
    I agree with pretty much everything, especially the last part. I've lost to a charger, but I had stock tires and full exhaust. Approx. 320rwhp and he had 380rwhp. He pulled me by a few cars.

    Srt-4s can be very quick from a roll, go with a dig as said before.
    haha true i raced 2 srt4s last night and won against both, one had a bigger turbo and was running 20psi and i raced him from a roll after we raced from a dig adn he put like 3 cars on me but i eventually ran him down cuz he sucked at shifting

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    Quote Originally Posted by 98snowt/a View Post
    haha true i raced 2 srt4s last night and won against both, one had a bigger turbo and was running 20psi and i raced him from a roll after we raced from a dig adn he put like 3 cars on me but i eventually ran him down cuz he sucked at shifting
    Sounds typical. I beat one from a roll when he missed 5th gear. He said he never had to shift into it while racing before LMAO.

    A cam and bolt-ons can take care of almost any srt-4.

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    Quote Originally Posted by allbaugh_04 View Post
    Sounds typical. I beat one from a roll when he missed 5th gear. He said he never had to shift into it while racing before LMAO.

    A cam and bolt-ons can take care of almost any srt-4.
    i also raced some drunk guy i met at a gas station with a 95 mustang 5.0 that apparently had heads cam intake and such well i raced him and it wasnt fast i pulled 2 cars on him then let off and he flew past me and never let up i was like i bet that douche thinks he just won haha

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    Quote Originally Posted by fergyflyer View Post
    He's looking at the rated number of 300-325 for the F-Body. You are exactly right since the F-Body was underated.

    Try this. RWHP

    Charger 4200/370 = 11.35 lbs/hp

    LS1 Fbod 3550/315 = 11.26 lbs per hp.

    Pretty darn close.

    mine weight in a exactly 4160 on the CAT scale

    so my charger 4160/413whp=10.07lbs/whp 413 was same a base just alot colder so it corrected to that # w/out the tune.
    yeah fergyflyer, but i'm currently in Afganastan so it's gonna be a little longer than a 3 hr drive. ha ha. Zinergy, if i were in milwaukee i would be running better than in VA in the heat and humidity of the summer after a 3.5 hr drive to VMP from Newport News. the dyno sheet displayed was the base dyno. un fortunately i spilled water on my other sheets so you can't read the graph just the #s so i didn't post them.

    http://www.dragtimes.com/Dodge-Charg...lip-14419.html

    link to dyno shootout results corrected #s

    http://www.dtpracing.com/Events/4515...par-11/22.html

    i'm James 07 Charger SRT8 w/o tune
    results:

    jan's 08 GT500 made 718.4
    Billy's 03 S/C Viper made 592.3
    Kevin's 07 S/C Mustang made 493
    Ray's 04 S/C Mach one made 437.6
    Randy's 91 NOS Mustang made 410.6
    Khalid's 04 turbo Mustang made 402.4
    Joe's 05 S/C Mustang made 376

    Jame's 07 SRT8 300 426 made 470
    Ray's 06 SRT8 300 made 420
    James 07 Charger SRT8 made 413
    Chris's 07 Charger SRT8 made 410
    Jennifer's 09 6spd Challenger SRT8 made 380
    Steven's 08 Challenger SRT8 made 378
    Randy's 347 Mustang made 373
    Ralph's 06 Charger SRT8 made 372
    Tom's 2000 Corvette made 312
    Chris's 66 Ford made 291
    Mathews 08 350Z made 279
    Jeff's 08 Mustang made 276
    Chris's 62 Ford made 257
    Mike's 96 T-bird made 172

    Kyle's 08 GTI made 225
    Bryce's 05 SRT4 made 214
    Rick's 85 SVO made 182
    Craigs 06 V6 Charger 187

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    Quote Originally Posted by NiteRiderWs6 View Post
    yea im sure it was racing the wouldnt need any more then a catback to beat one they are not hard to beat, all i have on my 6 Speed WS6 is a Lid, Catback and a Cutout and i have yet to loose to any SRT-8 car, truck or SUV and i have raced alot of them
    ive also raced an automatic 2010 ss twice and won from a roll. I loose horribly from a dig though because i cant afford new tires

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    I raced against an SRT4 at Firebird a few weeks ago. He suprised me. I raped him out of the hole (1.74 60') but he was catching up at the top end. I ran a 12.84 to his 12.92.

    Later in the pits I asked him about his car. He had a bigger aftermarket turbo and accompanying mods + exhaust and he had a few other things done to it.

    I have LT + !cats + X-pipe + TD's with Magna Flows turned down at the axle. I also have 3.73 gears, Mid-West chassis T/A and a 3400 stall + I had 255/60-16 MT DR's.

    Density altitude was ~3500' and temp was ~65*F.

    Needless to say I was impressed.

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    My car= SLP lid & magnaflow cat-back....had it to the track twice...best is 13.1@109....

    Raced 2 SRT8 challengers last time i was there...both were M6s and both were running low 13.3s-13.5s w/ 106-107 traps...and yes i know that both were SRT8s for sure

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    Quote Originally Posted by 98snowt/a View Post
    i also raced some drunk guy i met at a gas station with a 95 mustang 5.0 that apparently had heads cam intake and such well i raced him and it wasnt fast i pulled 2 cars on him then let off and he flew past me and never let up i was like i bet that douche thinks he just won haha



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    Quote Originally Posted by samuraidonkey View Post
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    Don't worry, in the morning he won't remember a thing.
    I am really surprised that he didnt wreck to be honest, he took a 90 degree turn going 50+ and was drifting around it. I was thinking damn that guys a dumbass

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    98 TA Lid, bellows, hypertech tune, LTs, high flow cat,Cat back, 3.73 A4
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    Quote Originally Posted by 13nickels View Post
    Stock 98 TA
    Stock yellow SRT 4 = Killed (so sad) from dig
    Stock Black SRT 10 Truck = Killed 1 length from dig

    98 TA Lid, bellows, hypertech tune, LTs, high flow cat,Cat back, 3.73 A4
    SLP Cat Back SRT 8 A4(300c) killed 2 length from dig
    Challenger RT A4 Killed 3 length
    Challenger SRT M6 Killed 1 length
    07 Mustang Cat back M6 Killed 2 length
    2010 Camaro SS M6 killed 1 lenght

    FTW LSX 4 life

    Next mods, Match, gas can = Black 05 vette Z51 $26,000 + Magnuson SC
    MATCH...... GAS CAN....???

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