Supercharged gt mustang?

**lmyers1** · 05-23-2008, 02:00 PM

I have a new neighbor how has a nice new gt mustang that has a cowl hood that says "supercharged" and I can hear the charger on it. I'm mostly stock with a lid, and short shifter so I have no illusions of whipping his ass I just was wondering how fast you guys think he really is. Looks good, sounds good, but that doesn't really mean shit...

**N20LT4** · 05-23-2008, 02:47 PM

Originally Posted by lmyers1

I have a new neighbor how has a nice new gt mustang that has a cowl hood that says "supercharged" and I can hear the charger on it. I'm mostly stock with a lid, and short shifter so I have no illusions of whipping his ass I just was wondering how fast you guys think he really is. Looks good, sounds good, but that doesn't really mean shit...

It depends HIGHLY on the year/model Mustang.

**mogs01gt** · 05-24-2008, 03:52 AM

Originally Posted by N20LT4

It depends HIGHLY on the year/model Mustang.

and what other mods. Some people just slap on a POS Saleen blower or slap on a Vortech with no other mods.

Could be putting 300rwhp down or it could be 400+.

**JwMonE99** · 05-24-2008, 07:12 AM

Get more info on the car

**hutch1999** · 05-24-2008, 07:19 AM

Originally Posted by mogs01gt

and what other mods. Some people just slap on a POS Saleen blower or slap on a Vortech with no other mods.

Could be putting 300rwhp down or it could be 400+.

+1 we need more info

**lmyers1** · 05-24-2008, 02:47 PM

2007 is the year and it I haven't seen under the hood however his truck has a Vortech sticker on it so assume its a vortech. I don't know if it has headers but seems to be loud as hell. The guy always plays it kinda smug so he doesn't give too much info.

**BAndit111** · 05-24-2008, 03:12 PM

Probably a vortech if it is making a nice whirring noise at idle,almost as if the belt is whining a bit.They tend to do that.All depends what psi he's running and intercooled or not.

**jrc1122** · 05-24-2008, 04:17 PM

If it is a blown 07 GT-- you lose-- come on guys that is an easy one.

As much as I love our cars over the GT-- if they add a supercharger to the newest style mustang GT. We lose (with the mods he mentioned)-- Unless the GT driver can't drive.

**N20LT4** · 05-24-2008, 05:04 PM

Considering it's a blown '07 GT, I would say don't even race him - I mean, that is if you like to lose. Wait until you do more mods. A cammed LS1 will keep up with/outrun a S197 GT on low to moderate boost.

**2K05GT** · 05-25-2008, 05:52 AM

I don't think a cammed LS1 will take a Moderatly boosted S197, wont happen
unless a cammed LS1 can run 11.s or 10's I would think Heads, Cam , Headers
would be a better bet, the LSx love air and they can be nasty when opened up to breath.

Light Bolt-on NA GT's are running Mid to high 12's, with a couple running mid to high 11's to low 12's

http://www.s197forum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=7

**tigersport14** · 05-25-2008, 06:21 AM

so your saying an 05+ mustang GT with intake and exhaust can possibly run 11s or 12s.....

**BLKCLOUD** · 05-25-2008, 06:39 AM

A "bolt-on" GT will run in the 12s with a competent driver, and a few have cracked high 11s (certainly not the norm). Equally-modded, and LS1 will run away from it, but I wouldn't consider it a sure thing. Too many variables.

**N20LT4** · 05-25-2008, 09:55 AM

Originally Posted by 2K05GT

I don't think a cammed LS1 will take a Moderatly boosted S197, wont happen
unless a cammed LS1 can run 11.s or 10's I would think Heads, Cam , Headers
would be a better bet, the LSx love air and they can be nasty when opened up to breath.

Light Bolt-on NA GT's are running Mid to high 12's, with a couple running mid to high 11's to low 12's

http://www.s197forum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=7

Umm...if I were you, i'd probably think again. Here is a response to your little list of fast Mustangs.

The fastest "cam-only" LS1 on this list is not too far behind the fastest supercharged Mustang your list.

http://www.ls1tech.com/forums/showthread.php?t=187330

Now what were you saying about a cam-only LS1 not doing what?

**jrc1122** · 05-25-2008, 12:24 PM

Originally Posted by N20LT4

Umm...if I were you, i'd probably think again. Here is a response to your little list of fast Mustangs.

The fastest "cam-only" LS1 on this list is not too far behind the fastest supercharged Mustang your list.

http://www.ls1tech.com/forums/showthread.php?t=187330

Now what were you saying about a cam-only LS1 not doing what?

Nice --

**2K05GT** · 05-25-2008, 04:52 PM

Originally Posted by N20LT4

Umm...if I were you, i'd probably think again. Here is a response to your little list of fast Mustangs.

The fastest "cam-only" LS1 on this list is not too far behind the fastest supercharged Mustang your list.

http://www.ls1tech.com/forums/showthread.php?t=187330

Now what were you saying about a cam-only LS1 not doing what?

I can see that, all those cars have all bolt ons, gears, weight reduction,, Stalls/clutch Ect.. with just CAM work on the engine. I agree with those times.
But the comment was just CAMS. no one mentioned all bolt on tall gears and so on.

That Little list of Mustangs was from a small forum community with only a 1,583 Members and only 607 Active Members.

**2K05GT** · 05-25-2008, 05:08 PM

Originally Posted by tigersport14

so your saying an 05+ mustang GT with intake and exhaust can possibly run 11s or 12s.....

Intake and Tune will get a GT into the 12.8-12.9 territory. Exhaust does nothing to the GT but make it louder. the 2 1/2 inch duels breath quite well.

I have a 2005 Mustang GT Automatic
with Stock Motor and 5R55S Tranny
with the following Mods (Bolt-ons)
JLT II CAI Intake
Steeda UDP
Steeda Charge Motion delete Plates
JBA Long Tube Headers
JBA Catted H Pipe
Spyder Aluminum DS
CHE Lower Control Arms
FRPP 4.10 Gears
SCT 93 Oct Tune from Bamachips
and I run 12.41 @ 109.35 consistantly. with a Stall and better DR's I will be at 11.9 easy.
with Cams and head work, mid to low 11's.

But to get heads and Cams worked on the price will equal the price of a supercharger. so most don't go this route because of cost.

This is my First Ford, all my other cars were GM's I have owned a 1971 455 T/A, 85 Corvette, and I still own the best truck ever made, 2000 Z71 Silverado. but when I had seen the 05 Mustang I just wanted to have it, I loved to look, but wanted it to be faster. I am 45 and have two grand children, so racing was not on my things to do when I bought it.

I am not trying to wave any ford banner here, I am just stating the facts as I know it.

**N20LT4** · 05-25-2008, 05:18 PM

Originally Posted by 2K05GT

Intake and Tune will get a GT into the 12.8-12.9 territory. Exhaust does nothing to the GT but make it louder. the 2 1/2 inch duels breath quite well.

I have a 2005 Mustang GT Automatic
with Stock Motor and 5R55S Tranny
with the following Mods (Bolt-ons)
JLT II CAI Intake
Steeda UDP
Steeda Charge Motion delete Plates
JBA Long Tube Headers
JBA Catted H Pipe
Spyder Aluminum DS
CHE Lower Control Arms
FRPP 4.10 Gears
SCT 93 Oct Tune from Bamachips
and I run 12.41 @ 109.35 consistantly. with a Stall and better DR's I will be at 11.9 easy.
with Cams and head work, mid to low 11's.

Intake and Tune alone is not getting an S197 GT in the 12's on street tires. That's B.S. Here's a more realistic version of a high 12-second S197. This car features more extensive upgrades like "Long-tubes" and "Drag Radials".

And the Horsepower TV guys did a cat-back swap on the featured S197 and gained 7.1rwhp on the dyno. That does count as a gain over stock.

12.4@109 is decent...I wen't 12.2@109 W/ full bolt-ons in my old '93 T/A LT1.

**2K05GT** · 05-25-2008, 05:30 PM

Originally Posted by N20LT4

Intake and Tune alone is not getting an S197 GT in the 12's on street tires. That's B.S. Here's a more realistic version of a high 12-second S197. This car features more extensive upgrades like "Long-tubes" and "Drag Radials".

And the Horsepower TV guys did a cat-back swap on the featured S197 and gained 7.1rwhp on the dyno. That does count as a gain over stock.

12.4@109 is decent...I wen't 12.2@109 W/ full bolt-ons in my old '93 T/A LT1.

Dude, why would I lie to you, I have owned my car for three years, I have gone down this path one mod at a time. I have made 200+ passes down th e1320 with each mod. But I quess I can't convince you, you must know all, so go ahead an beleive what you want. you have fun with that.
others have said that it's possable, I have seen it, go to Mustangforums or S197forum.com and search for yourself.

**2K05GT** · 05-25-2008, 05:36 PM

Last year I ran 12.8 with just intake, tune, gears, UDP, LCA
and I have an Automatic, a manual can do it with just intake and tune,

Here is the video ....
http://www.youtube.com/v/j2sj72uFsVg&hl=en

Here are some in the 12's with mods listed
http://www.mustangforums.com/timesli...TimeSlipID=464

http://www.mustangforums.com/timesli...TimeSlipID=499

I know that a 5.7 or 6.0 motor will perform better, no replacment for displacment
I agree, I hope you would run faster than a mustang with the same mods, that would only make sense.

The LSx Motors are the best engines built to date I agree, Yes the Mustang has always been underpowered, I agree
The Camaro will always be faster than the Mustang, I agree.. Don't raise a BS flag when I am only trying to state facts
Chill out

I am not here to argue, I am here to learn and to teach. I am a future Camaro Owner (2010) already have the down payment in.
I love Cars Period, I don't care about brands. I Buy what I like, simple as that.

**N20LT4** · 05-25-2008, 05:45 PM

Originally Posted by 2K05GT

Last year I ran 12.8 with just intake, tune, gears, UDP, LCA
and I have an Automatic, a manual can do it with just intake and tune,

Here is the video ....
http://www.youtube.com/v/j2sj72uFsVg&hl=en

Don't forget the DRAG RADIALS. That would be considered a pretty significant mod - ya know!

And I already read the "Chill Out" part. No need to edit.