Stockish LT1 vs cammed 383 LT1 (That I beat
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04-21-2011, 05:21 PM #1
Stockish LT1 vs cammed 383 LT1 (That I beat
Hey guy's. I just wanted to post up this vid of a stock LT1 Formula with LT's and 3.73 gears vs the EXACT SAME 383 LT1 Camaro that I blew away in my car. (The thread that got closed the other day) Since everyone seems to think that I was making it all up. Well that cammed 383 LT1 couldn't put more than about 1/2 car on this other LT1 that I also beat in my Z-28. Not trying to start another flame war, just trying to prove my point that I never made anything up. So here is the video. Obviously that 383 has some problems. The guy said it has a lot of blow by because the guy who put the motor together didn't break it in properly. Again, here is the video...enjoy.
Last edited by Mystic Z-28; 04-21-2011 at 05:28 PM.
04-22-2011, 05:42 AM #2
Those aren't your cars and you aren't driving them. So all this proves is that you can find a video on the internet.
04-22-2011, 05:46 AM #3
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The car the camera is sitting in, is supercharged. Riding with a friend I assume. What kind of car is it? No one else answer, I want to see what Mystic has to say.
04-24-2011, 01:50 PM #4
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ohhh, ohhhh pick me, i know what it is!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
04-25-2011, 12:19 AM #5
04-25-2011, 09:09 AM #6
I have seen some "stock-ish" LT1 cars with 3.73 gears and exhaust turn some decent times at the track. Most of the time they are on par with an LS1 car so what does this prove?
The crappy 383 was able to pull against a car with exhaust and gears and you beat the crappy 383 by how much? Sorry, but that geared/exhaust LT1 is not going to be 5 cars behind you at the track. Just not going to happen.
Not trying to be a jerk buddy just not understanding your side.
Last edited by TLS_Addict; 04-25-2011 at 09:14 AM.
04-25-2011, 07:42 PM #7
04-25-2011, 08:58 PM #8
Ok, just wondering.
Sorry, I dont get it. Please explain to me how you win by so much being stock and he is modded.
04-25-2011, 11:22 PM #9
Yes 280 is very high for a stock LT1, it surprised a lot of people here. And I only know of 3 LS1's that dynoed on the same dyno
1. A 2001 M6 TA with LT's, ORY, a few degrees more timing, lid and cat-back. He put down 319 rwhp. (My car was door to door with this car from a roll also) There was NO driver error on the TA's part either. Just sayin.
2. A 1999 b4c Camaro M6, with LT's, LS6 intake, lid, ORY and cat-back. He put down 330 rwhp.
3. 2002 SS Camaro A4, with LT's FAST intake, tune, lid and cat-back. He put down 340.
And I never said that I pulled 6 cars to 90. I meant that I pulled 4-5 cars (definitely at least 4) all together. That's counting the 2 cars that I fell behind on the launch. I ended up at least 2 cars in front by 90ish. By 110 it would have probably been 2 more cars. But there wasn't enough road that night. That LT1 also ran a 13.7 @ 101-102, stock with the 3.73's. With his new LT's I'd imagine he could pull off a 13.5 or better after he gets a tune.
I've also heard of no optioned LS1 F-bodies weighing as little as 3,200 lbs. My gross vehicle weight on my drivers door says 4200, and I've always thought that the actual curb weight was about 1,000 less than that. I could be wrong though. My grand prix says 4500 lbs for it's gross vehicle weight and those are usually around 3500 curb weight. Like I said I will get more vids of my car in action sometime soon hopefully.
04-26-2011, 01:13 PM #10
I say 4 cars because you say he got the jump on because of your tires spinning.
Also, in your first thread you say that you could pull (go look at it because I just did) 2 more cars from 90-115. I dont believe that for a minute.
Why must you try to bullshit us? Some folks on here can do it but honestly your story does not add up. 3 + 2 does not equal 9.
04-26-2011, 02:33 PM #11
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IBTL ive ran LT cars on the street and even when i had the same mods you did i never got over 3-4 lengths on one EVER.
04-26-2011, 02:56 PM #12
04-26-2011, 08:03 PM #13
And yes LS1 F-bodies CAN weigh 3200 lbs without any weight reduction. My car also gets completely sideways at 45 mph on the 1-2 shift, but I bet you're going to call BS on that too?
And where are you getting 9 from? 3 + 2? WHAT? And I said from 90 to 110, not 115. See, you can't even keep my story straight.
I'm not bullshitting anyone, you're just pulling shit out of your ass.
04-26-2011, 09:05 PM #14
Settle yourself down Francis.
Lets rip this apart one point at a time.
I did something quick on my Ti 82 so it may be wrong but it looks like by your logic you cover 147 feet per second at 100 mph. Issue again is you are not at 100 mph for the entire run, only at the peak. Its a progression issue as both vehicles are gaining speed at a different rate and trying to apply 1.5 feet per second is at 1 mph is NOT going to cut it here my friend. You have two cars.....why cant you see this?
Think of it this way, the faster you go the greater the distance for a 1 second interval. Easy way to figure this is to take 2 cars. One can do the 1/4 mile in 1 seconds (just hang with me) and the other can run it in 1.5 seconds. Are you saying there is just 1 car length between them? No, the loser would be back quite a ways. As the times get slower the gaps change.
Oh and as per my last eye exam I have 20-15 vision. My depth perception is fine and I think this pool of "turd" is getting deeper by your every post.
We will hold our breath.
3 + 2 does not = 9 is just like your dribble because it doesnt add up. If you had the slightest cognitive ability to see outside of your own realm you would realize I was using fictitious number that dont mean anything. Again, your inability to grasp such concepts is why you think your car is so fast. Those number are picked random out of the air.
And to think you can vote.....hahaha
04-26-2011, 09:34 PM #15
You really lack in comprehension, don't you? It's not about speed progress in this case. It's about PEAK speed. I said that I was at least 4 cars ahead of that LT1 by 90 mph. That's not even a full quarter mile. Since the 1/4 mile line would be the PEAK point of the race, which means that you go by the PEAK speed of both cars. 100+ mph in 1 second is WAYYY more than 4 lousy car lengths. What speed either car was going before that 1/4 mark means absolutely jack shit in this case. You even said that I should be running a full second quicker than that LT1 in the 1/4 mile. Which, again, is the PEAK point of the race. Please explain to me how any speed below peak speed has ANYTHING to do with what we are talking about. I'll wait.
And quit acting like you have seen my car in action, or that you were there during these races. That makes you sound pretty effing ignorant. I made this thread to prove to everyone that this cammed 383 camaro isn't nearly as fast as people thought it should be. Which it isn't. If anyone is losing here, it's you.
You really don't have a clue what you're saying.
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