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Stock LS1 vs 05 GT?

This is a discussion on Stock LS1 vs 05 GT? within the Kill Stories forums, part of the Racing Forums category; Originally Posted by Marc87GN I would imagine LS1s aren't performing up to par either. It wouldn't make sense for a ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marc87GN
    I would imagine LS1s aren't performing up to par either. It wouldn't make sense for a car that depends more an atmospheric pressure to perfrom well under the same conditions.
    Mine with my mods is 13.1@111mph with a 2.2 60ft time. I run that on street tires and still need a few mods for my setup. Intake, ported T/b, and different exhaust. I should be mid to low 12's easy, but traction and those couple of mods are killing me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BIG D's SS
    Mine with my mods is 13.1@111mph with a 2.2 60ft time. I run that on street tires and still need a few mods for my setup. Intake, ported T/b, and different exhaust. I should be mid to low 12's easy, but traction and those couple of mods are killing me.

    You would probably be much faster up here. Cobras with simple bolt-ons including a pulley, run easy high 11s/low 12s at just around 119-120 mph. That Eaton M112 is barely being used from the factory. Different pulley usually wakes them up a bit. KB whipple blowers are an entirely different animal. 600+ rwhp is not uncommon with KB blowers.

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    I need to go somewhere like that and get a good time slip those are far between here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BIG D's SS
    Mine with my mods is 13.1@111mph with a 2.2 60ft time. I run that on street tires and still need a few mods for my setup. Intake, ported T/b, and different exhaust. I should be mid to low 12's easy, but traction and those couple of mods are killing me.
    damn man, that car should be well over 115, depending if you have any weight reduction of course.. If I ever get to the damn track, fucking weather, I hope to be trapping around 110-113 as I sit now. No my car isnt near stock weight .

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    I can't wait to try out my GN on the track. I just dropped in a built shortblock w/Lunati cam, P&P heads/intake, front mount intercooler & bigger turbo. I have been told by guys with similar setup run 11s @ 115+ on pump gas and low 11s/high 10s on race gas with this turbo. I have my eye on a BB-T-70 for next summer though.

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    Congrats and good luck with it. Keep us posted on hwo it turns out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marc87GN
    If he says stock, we know he is FOS. Just be glad that 03/04 didn't have a pulley. That would be the first thing I do to it. Pulley, exhaust & tires and 11s @ 120 mph are real easy.
    His '03 Cobra is stock exept for loudmouth exhaust and it is a vert.
    I have a '02 Z28 vert, ram air, k&n, lid, flowmaster, flowmaster, hypertech tuning, smooth bellows.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mogs01gt
    damn man, that car should be well over 115, depending if you have any weight reduction of course.. If I ever get to the damn track, fucking weather, I hope to be trapping around 110-113 as I sit now. No my car isnt near stock weight .
    Full car with cleaning accesories a few jackets. Never clean it out. I run it like I brung it. No weight reductions. Gotta run like I keep it normally.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BIG D's SS
    Full car with cleaning accesories a few jackets. Never clean it out. I run it like I brung it. No weight reductions. Gotta run like I keep it normally.
    i gotcha, mine maybe will have CDs in it if that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mogs01gt
    i gotcha, mine maybe will have CDs in it if that.
    Next year I will be a little more serious. I didn't even have sfc's. I'm gonna get my intake, ported t/b, new catback and a new dyno tune after that. Damn i can't wait. If I get balls enough to get some drag radials and go for low 12's.

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    Quote Originally Posted by slo98ss
    ive raped 2, and i have a lid and shifter.....
    you have raped 2 what?

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    I wasted an 05 stang this summer real bad. I was actually dissapointed . By the time i hit 2nd there was at least 2 car lengths between us. I thought the first one was a fluke, but we ran at least 3 more times with the same result. I haven't had the chance to run another one to see if the guy was just a bad driver!

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    Quote Originally Posted by 00pewterz
    I wasted an 05 stang this summer real bad. I was actually dissapointed . By the time i hit 2nd there was at least 2 car lengths between us. I thought the first one was a fluke, but we ran at least 3 more times with the same result. I haven't had the chance to run another one to see if the guy was just a bad driver!
    Nice car ya got man! Trust me, it's the car, you chose wisely when you got yer LS1!

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    Quote Originally Posted by BIG D's SS
    I have handed a couple 05 GT's there ass. Even a Saleen. Don't ever be intimidated by a Mustang.
    Hello for starters. I think this site is great. I enjoy reading the KILLS section of the forums. Always interesting to hear about others encounters.

    As for the intimidation of mustangs thing, I'd have to say that you shouldn't be intimidated of any car you meet only in awe perhaps of a select few. Anyway, I'm a firm believer in the saying that, "There is always someone faster out there, it just depends on how much money you're willing to spend."
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    i seen a few at 41 dragway do no better than high 13s.
    hell, when stock i was pulling mid 13s on eagle gsc tires.
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    Oh ya!!! You guys think i could stick that rat in the SS or what. Gimme a week,BFH,and a torch and i'll finnaly reach the 10's

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    Quote Originally Posted by BlownPNY
    Hello for starters. I think this site is great. I enjoy reading the KILLS section of the forums. Always interesting to hear about others encounters.

    As for the intimidation of mustangs thing, I'd have to say that you shouldn't be intimidated of any car you meet only in awe perhaps of a select few. Anyway, I'm a firm believer in the saying that, "There is always someone faster out there, it just depends on how much money you're willing to spend."

    Well said!!!

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    Out of an average of 26 road tests for Camaro 1998-2002 and 9 road tests for the 2005 Mustang these are the results: (Manual Transmission)

    Camaro 0-60 5.3 seconds
    Mustang 0-60 5.3 seconds

    Camaro 0-100 12.50 seconds
    Mustang 0-100 13.35 seconds

    Camaro 1/4 mile 13.6 @ 105.7 mph
    Mustang 1/4 mile 13.9 @ 102.3 mph

    Quickest Mustang test I have found so far 13.50 @ 102.4. I heard someone ran a 13.3X but I have not seen it.
    Quickest Camaro test 12.89 @ 107 mph

    Slowest Camaro 14.1 @ ??? from MSN.com
    Slowest Mustang 14.3@102.31from Edmunds.com


    It looks like the Mustang will hang 0-60. But the LS1 will pull on it after that. I think the Mustang is a little easier to launch.
    Don't forget driver skill.
    Good driver in Mustang, not so good driver in Camaro = Win for the Mustang.

    Mach I 5spd 2003+
    Average 0-60 5.24
    Average 1/4 Mile 13.53@104.48
    Quickest 13.18@105.24
    Slowest 14.12@105.5
    (Averages from 10 road tests.)

    As you can see, the Mach I is still the King of naturally aspirated Mustangs.
    Also, this car can do pretty well against an LS1. It can easily be a driver's race although, everthing being equal, the LS1 still has the advantage.
    I raced my friends Mach I from a roll. Both cars factory stock. It's a quick car and could possibly take me in the quarter if he gets a better launch, but my WS6 will eventually catch up. There is no contest on the highway. Bye bye Mach I....

    More Stuff to compare:
    Camaro 60-0 126ft
    Mustang 60-0 127ft

    Camaro Skid pad .86g
    Mustang Skid Pad .86g

    Camaro Slalom 62.13mph
    Mustang Slalom 63.7 mph

    Camaro Top Speed 160
    Mustang top Speed 150

    Camaro MPG 19/28
    Mustang MPG 17/25

    Average STOCK M6 2002 Camaro Rear Wheel Power 314hp 330tq
    Average STOCK M5 2005 Mustang Rear Wheel Power 268hp 282tq

    With a 12% drivetrain loss =
    Camaro 357hp
    Mustang 305hp.

    The Ford guys are right. The Mustang IS underrated! Five whole horsepower!! They are now making 5 more hp than the Lt1 had back in 1993! Only 95 hp to go to finally catch up with GM. They are almost there!


    I know I sound like I'm bashing the car but I really do like the new GT. It is a nice car. It's just not up to LS1 performance standards yet.
    Last edited by DarthD; 01-24-2006 at 08:49 PM.

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