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STI vs Camaro Z28 98+

This is a discussion on STI vs Camaro Z28 98+ within the Kill Stories forums, part of the Racing Forums category; Originally Posted by 317Born no tune at all...i wouldnt sit here and bs u guys...plus here in alaska we have ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by 317Born View Post
    no tune at all...i wouldnt sit here and bs u guys...plus here in alaska we have damn near the best track in the nation because of the location...right at sealevel....and always 50-40 degrees...just come 2 elmendorf afb, alaska...or not....
    I'm right at sea level too.

    And I'm telling you no car (especially not a 4 cylinder mitsubishi tuned for fuel economy and emmissions from the factory) gains 1.5 seconds in the 1/4 mile from only an intake and exhaust. Simple as that. You're looking at well over a 100WHP gain to go from a 13.9 (stock) to a mid 12, it just doesn't happen.

    I actually find it hard to believe anyone with an Evo X is running 12.4, period. They have less power to the wheels than the 9 model did, and they weigh more and have more electronic crap on them. You'd need a hell of a lot of mods to bump the engine up to the kind of power level necessary to run that kind of time.
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    its the same exact mivec engine as the 9 isnt it????? i know its a heavier car though

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wesman View Post
    I'm right at sea level too.

    And I'm telling you no car (especially not a 4 cylinder mitsubishi tuned for fuel economy and emmissions from the factory) gains 1.5 seconds in the 1/4 mile from only an intake and exhaust. Simple as that. You're looking at well over a 100WHP gain to go from a 13.9 (stock) to a mid 12, it just doesn't happen.

    I actually find it hard to believe anyone with an Evo X is running 12.4, period. They have less power to the wheels than the 9 model did, and they weigh more and have more electronic crap on them. You'd need a hell of a lot of mods to bump the engine up to the kind of power level necessary to run that kind of time.
    actually stock they run 13.5...and its not the same engine as the 9....the 9 is a 4g63 the block on the 4g63 is cast iron.....even though the its still mivec...the x has a 4b11....which is all aluminum....its really different than the 9...also is making more horsepower and torque than the 9....but real shit...maybe he has a flash tune...and just not telling anybody...who knows...and ams has a stock evo x gsr that they tuned and pulled a whamping 103 horse....and 87ftlbs of torque just from a tune....think about that......

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    Quote Originally Posted by 317Born View Post
    actually stock they run 13.5...and its not the same engine as the 9....the 9 is a 4g63 the block on the 4g63 is cast iron.....even though the its still mivec...the x has a 4b11....which is all aluminum....its really different than the 9...also is making more horsepower and torque than the 9....but real shit...maybe he has a flash tune...and just not telling anybody...who knows...and ams has a stock evo x gsr that they tuned and pulled a whamping 103 horse....and 87ftlbs of torque just from a tune....think about that......
    lets see some proof of that tune=100 hp........seriously somthing i need to seee to believe......got a link?? 400 horse out of a 2.0 L from the factory with JUST a tune? come on man!!! lol ....so with better airflow intake/exhaust and a tune u can get proly 450 horse out of an evo 10 your saying??? stock turbo and all? i would think theyd be sellin better if that were true

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    Quote Originally Posted by TargeT View Post
    thats right, COMPLETELY STOCK EvoX (stock from air filter to mufffler tip) with a boost controler and piggy back tune (no reflash)





    and a dyno 1/4 run. (12.4 @ 109)


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    its has boost controller and piggyback tune

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    sorry TTP not AMS...and watch...they did a baseline pull....then they did the tune and added a mbc and made another pull...man i dont kno why u guys would think i would b talkin outta my ass....
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    cuz there big numbers based on just a tune on a 2.0L turbo.....were not talkin about a V6 turbo here like a supra.....can only pull so much hp out of such a small engine easily and safely...comments on the bottom of that page say " difficult to keep the car straight with +87hp???????? lol how is that? its awd? i can keep mine straight with 400 rwhp .....interesting.....so from what i can see they just tuned it and raised the boost???? thats an enormous gain
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    true true...not tryin 2 dis u or nuttin....but supras are straight 6 turbos....but so far the evo x gsr is no joke...its damn near the best evo 2 date....i kinda wanna get 1....but that would mean i would have 2 trade in my t/a...so i dont kno....i love my t/a....but its becoming 2 much of a hassle 2 deal with

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    Quote Originally Posted by 317Born View Post
    true true...not tryin 2 dis u or nuttin....but supras are straight 6 turbos....but so far the evo x gsr is no joke...its damn near the best evo 2 date....i kinda wanna get 1....but that would mean i would have 2 trade in my t/a...so i dont kno....i love my t/a....but its becoming 2 much of a hassle 2 deal with
    my heart has been with the 06 MR in the dark grey/pewter color......the new ones havnt done it for me yet......ill never trade my z for one though......maybe somday ill get an evo for my daily driver......would be a hell of a lot of fun in the snow with some studs......let the pigs chase me in a foot of snow in that car..lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by tonyjnjz View Post
    my heart has been with the 06 MR in the dark grey/pewter color......the new ones havnt done it for me yet......ill never trade my z for one though......maybe somday ill get an evo for my daily driver......would be a hell of a lot of fun in the snow with some studs......let the pigs chase me in a foot of snow in that car..lol

    oh ironic...my boy that i came up 2 alaska with got the last 06 Evo MR Graphite Gray Metallic that was brand new in the USA...im not gonna lie...that shit is fast as fuck stock....i always lose 2 him when we street race...but when we ran at the track we were neck and neck...he ran 1 tenth faster than me....if i can find 1 thats used and in good shape i would grab that asap

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    haha not yet...i refuse to make car payments ever again and i only have 10k to spare for a toy.....im going to wait till i get a bigger house with a 2 car garage before i have a nice DD like that.......dont want it sitting out in the weather ...seems like a waste..thats y i got rid of my rsx-s for a beater

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    yea....i feel u on that...i hate my car payments...250 4 my taurus...and 382 for my t/a...i hate it....so i think imma sell either 1 of my cars...and get sumthin....maybe a 94-99 gsx or talon tsi...and build it up...

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    380 for a fucking old car? You're god damn NUTS! I pay 220$ for my 99 camaro. Its KBB'd at 13grand too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eric1987 View Post
    380 for a fucking old car? You're god damn NUTS! I pay 220$ for my 99 camaro. Its KBB'd at 13grand too.
    lmao....ur nuts too if thats the case!!! mines paid off

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eric1987 View Post
    380 for a fucking old car? You're god damn NUTS! I pay 220$ for my 99 camaro. Its KBB'd at 13grand too.

    its 382 for my 02 som t/a....and its only like that cuz my credit wasnt that good

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    Ouch that really sucks man. I really feel for you. My friends pay 400$ a month for a 2006

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    Quote Originally Posted by 317Born View Post
    its has boost controller and piggyback tune
    Reflash...Piggyback...what's the difference? It's still not the stock calibration.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tonyjnjz View Post
    i HIGHLY doubt it.......check out 0-60 times of very fast production cars.....awd cars run faster.....and sti or evo both run under 5 sec to 60 with only 230 wheel hp......fastest ive seen them test an ls1 z run is 5.1 with 300 rwhp .....sry man....im doubtful ....have to beat on an awd car to launch the piss out of it though.....not my cup of tea

    I've ran a 4.8 0-60 times with mine on street tires, few suspension mods and a cat back. I know I can run better than that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hot Black Trans-Am View Post
    I've ran a 4.8 0-60 times with mine on street tires, few suspension mods and a cat back. I know I can run better than that.
    im comparing apples to apples......magazines runs vs eachother.....theres prolly some guys on the evo sites runnin faster than the mags posted times too... awd obviously gives u better street traction in high power applications ......traction is obviously quite limited on the street......another big diff is where u live and the given day......tires stick MUCH MUCH better on a hot sunny day mid day with the pavement well over 100 deg......if its 50 out and cloudy theres no way im gonna touch an evo or sti off the line from a light....ill catchem in a hurry though

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