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    Sorry for the language moderators, i'll keep it cool but just wanted to respond to pumped o3's posts in a technical manner, not gonna waste my time argueing about childish insults, but for the record the lame trash that pumped o3's is saying is not true. Was just gonna let it go but then pumped o3 pm'ed me and I saw all the bogus stuff the haters were saying on svt.com so felt the need to reply, it's so funny over there its unreal how presumptious and one sided these guys are, only a few guys actually had anything relevant and technical to say, the rest was just a ridiculous show of ingnorance, but lets keep it technical and see what you guys got cause i could give you guys a run for your money, lets see what you guys know since your so cocky.

    This post has become such a big deal on "svt".com also and pumped o3 and others wanted to hear what I have to say bout his pics of his cobra, really don't care what you guys think bout my cars and bikes cause when my vids are posted soon everyone is gonna have to eat there words and are gonna look really dumb trying to question me like that. It's funny cause the guys on svt.com are saying I don't have a bike either, what a joke I'll post my stunt videos from my cbr929rr and from the next bracket race in my ls1 at arroyo seco soon. You guys are gonna cr@p your pants when you see the stunt vids of my 929. Also for the record arroyo seco is not a town, it's a race track off I10 west heading towards deming. They have a drag and road coarse for bikes and cars, so please guys don't act like you know everything cause you dont.

    Pumped 03 please inform us all of the details of your setup on cobra, but you wanted my "einstein" opinion of what I thought about your setup.

    It appears that pumped cobra has an externally mounted air to liquid intercooler or heat exchanger, what ever you want to call it same thing. The factory air to liquid intercoolers pass boosted air over lambda type tubes or other designs also. These tubes run engine coolant through them and consequently cool the incoming charge. I'm not a cobra expert but if im not mistaken the cobras run a factory air to air in the front and a air to liquid type intercooler under the blower. The deal is that if you add an external reservior to the factory type air to liquid intercooler you can see lower air intake temperatures cause you can run chilled ice water or liquid in this external reservior instead of using the factory cooling system which inherantly holds more heat from the engine. This appears to be the setup on pumped o3's car, just from what I can see, and please correct me if im wrong, you asked my opinion as did others ask what the setup is.

    Furthermore the reservior next to the external cell with the orange liquid could either be the external fill tank for his aluminum reservior or it could even be a secondary reservior holding a mixture of methanol for methanol injection. Methanol injection further cools the intake charge and adds density to the engine. Methanol has a cooling effect similar to alcohol evaporating, picture alcohol evaporating off your skin on a hot day it feels cold, just an analogy. The approximate equation for intake air temperatures regarding horsepower is about a 2% increase in horsepower for every 10 degree drop. Most guys with boosted applications can see up to 70 rwhp with the addition of methanol injection. Now once again everybody im only going off the pictures of the trunk of pumped o3's car, but in reality the system that i have explained is the most efficient in terms of intercooling on a boosted application, so if pumped 03 really knows what hes doing thats probably what hes is running, and once again any other people with knowledge about boost please chime in. Also I fully expect pumped o3 to chime in about his setup and hopefully he will be a real man and hold a technical discussion about it and we could see what he's really talkin about. Also just the fact that pumped o3 has a kenny bell and exotic intercooling system and who knows how many tens of thousands of dollars in that car, but yet cant get his car to the 10's only further illustrates my point that im not that impressed with the cobras. Don't get me wrong very fast times and impressive trap speed showing potential, but my point is including the price of the car and mods I could get an ls1 to the 10's naturally aspirated for less than the cost of just a cobra at all. Never had the budget of guys like o3 pumped cobra that think they are all bad cause they have enough money to that expensive of a car and spend thousands to make it that fast, would rather buy an fbody or corvette. Did it on my own with a small budget and as my shop grows and i'll have an increased budget I will further develop my ls1 combinations that i've been working on. I'll say it one more time not that impressed with the cobra for supercharged and thats my opinion and everyone is entitled to have one.


    As far as callin me a liar wont take it personally anymore will let my vids do the talking this season. They are opening up a new drag strip in el paso next to the sand drag track and its supposed to be real nice. They are even talking about gettin ihra sanctioned, which would be huge for here. Yea and your right new mexico isn't the racing meca, but thats good for me and my new shop cause no one is specializing in modifying ls1's around here yet except me. So with the new track and sanctioning here it should be great, im gonna run the bracket at the new track also cause it's great fun and good advertising for my business. Also for the record if you would have payed attention I lived in the south also in Baton Rouge, Was there in early 01 racin on the street and at the tracks when futrell and a lot of fast guys were barely evolving there ls1's and breaking records, was right there in the mix. Also know craig moates and jason stevens out there also, so no stranger to the southern scene. And I kid yall not ls1's rule the area out there pretty much. I mean think about it there are a lot more ls1's on the road then there are blown o3/04 cobras.

    So hope that clears up some of the bull that this thread created and sorry again for the language moderators, just want to see how pumped o3 responds and trust and believe it's gonna be funny when homeboy has to eat his words. It's amazing how presumptious some people can be when they don't even know somebody, but no hard feelings guess its part of bein on here versus talking to people in person. Peace to everyone thats cool and to all the haters you guys are gonna have to get really technical and know what you are talking about if you expect to battle me over this, Plus offer still stands for any cobra guys that want to race me pumped o3 said a stock cobra would beat me on motor so please enlighten me, plus anyone all modded i'll run you on the bottle for fun win or lose! It ain't gonna be pretty for yall when my vids go up soon. Peace

    Also if you want to come up here and run pumped o3 you are more than welcome too and if your car smokes me with me on a 150 shot than great, just might want to be a little nicer to me as im not the sawed off italian runt you may have envisioned, actually play semi pro football for the sunkings and roll jui jitsui and kickboxing, but no hard feelings it's all good, looking forward to your response about your system on your cobra. Plus to you haters that are talking bout my cbr or lack there of, rather, for the record i'm one of the original 5 founders of one of the premier superbike stunt teams here in the southwest "Acting Illegal", so anyone want to call me out on that too, probably none of you guys at svt.com have anywhere near the balls to even step in that realm.
    Stay tuned cause I have a feeling that this discussion isn't over and yall are gonna see i ain't no easy target or pushover. So the haters may want to start looking for somebody else to try and call bs cause im gonna end up owning these guys cause i'll have all supporting videos and documention in the days to come. You guys may think im bein childish but in my opinion the svt guys are cause a lot of them don't know crap obviosly and have been needing to be shut up since early 01, not gonna let these guys come on here to ls1.com all high and mighty about cobras, i've been chillin on here for years and gonna defend my honor on here for shur.
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    Heres a couple pics guys of the blown and stoked 10 second 72 split bumper camaro that I built for one of my customers and also a pic of my new nx wet system on my ls1 plus one of the third gens I built for a customer and finally on the end my supercharged deep 11 second 89 camaro.
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    And yea I know it's not fair to compare the ls1 with more cubes to a blwn cobra, but tell that to the cobra guys cause there the ones that have been bragging about beating n/a ls1's and force the comparison to happen, like I said big freakin deal that a blwn cobra is barely faster than a stock n/a ls1. A more fair comparison would be the supercharged northstar based dohc motor that comes in the caddy xlr that puts out approximately around 450hp stock I believe on only 6-8psi of boost. However they don't offer it in a vehicle of similar proportions to a cobra but this would actually be a more fair comparison in terms of design cause the gm motor is 4.6 liters also. But the 4.6 is clearly not the focus of the performance division of gm as they are very succesful with the pushrod lsx evolution as evidenced by multiple 24 hours of lemans victories and unquestionable success and performance of the C5R, C6R and Z06 models. The new Z06 corvette broke 10.80's on drag radials and low 11's on street tires stock and naturally aspirated, pumped o3's cobra barely broke low 11's on slicks or drag radials for sure with thousands in mods a, a kenny bell supercharger, possible custom air to liquid intercooler and methanol(yet to be clarified by mr. pumped 03 himself) and probably full bolt ons, but I want to know from pumped 03 what he has done to his car and how much he has invested in it including the price of his car.

    Not a fair comparison with the Z06 which is obviously in a whole nother league, but cam only with supporting mods and head and cam fbodies easily go 10's N/A, only reinforcing my point that my opinion is that the lsx series engines are more impressive to me to turn those numbers out naturally aspirated with no problem and are extremely sick when setup for boost. I mean for peats sake the Ford Gt had to be supercharged just to run with the New Z06! Once again when the new series of lsx engines comes out set up for boost and supercharged in the Corvette (ls9 engine)which is already made and under wraps with gm, and blowers in the trucks also, it's gonna be a slaughter and will be even more clear what im talking about. Furthermore gm has already developed and patented the first dual in block cam pushrod lsx motor with variable cam phase timing as well as trick new heads. In addition in lsx producion currently are seemless cylinder on demand options and flex fuel. Plus lsx engines get way better fuel mileage than any ford v8 especially supercharged and they are more reliable in my mechanical and engineering opinion. Furthermore the new l92 heads derived from C6 Z06 technology are featured on the new 6.2 ltr and flow 330cfm out of the box and are available for only $375 a piece complete. Matching l76 intake and 42 pound injectors with 90 mm tb is only $500. Look for 600 plus hp N/A pumgas lsx engines to be cruising the streets once people catch on this new combo. I've already got my comlete 6.0 secured and will be workin on that. Plus for the ls1 guys with smaller bore gm is making a set of l92s with a little smaller valves to fit 5.7, cause the valves are monster unheard of smallblock street size 2.16 intake!

    Ford ain't got nothin that could touch that and if there is please enlighten me, I really don't look at ford as much, I mean I know my enemy but please anyone thats into ford let me know what new stuff ford has coming out, cause the new gt500 that ford said is 5oo horsepower seems to be no faster or is slower than the o3/04 cobra. For a claimed 110 horsepower advantage over th 03/04 cobras stock you would think its faster, ford always overrates it seems to me(ala late 90's cobras recalled due to bogus power claims. I was dissapointed to see that the guys from mm&ff could only go 13.1 stock at atco with a new supercharged gt500, as were they. However to there somewhat credit they did get it to the tens with a host of thousands of dollars of parts and suspension mods.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BlwnCamaro View Post
    Heres a couple pics guys of the blown and stoked 10 second 72 split bumper camaro that I built for one of my customers and also a pic of my new nx wet system on my ls1 plus one of the third gens I built for a customer and finally on the end my supercharged deep 11 second 89 camaro....
    Blown, is that you in that pic, with the white camaro? If so, you look a little bit like that dude from Ultimate Fighter (season one), but I forget his name though. He was the guy who fought Stephen Bonner (think his name was Forrest, or Griffin or Forest Griffin, or something like that lol).....

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    can you post a link to the SVT forum I want to read about it..

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    Quote Originally Posted by hutch1999 View Post
    can you post a link to the SVT forum I want to read about it..
    http://www.svtperformance.com/forums...d.php?t=369315

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    This post has become such a big deal on "svt".com
    Don't flatter yourself. 37 replies is no "big deal". Your Italian comment got most of the laughs.

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    It appears that pumped cobra has an externally mounted air to liquid intercooler or heat exchanger, what ever you want to call it same thing. The factory air to liquid intercoolers pass boosted air over lambda type tubes or other designs also. These tubes run engine coolant through them and consequently cool the incoming charge. I'm not a cobra expert but if im not mistaken the cobras run a factory air to air in the front and a air to liquid type intercooler under the blower.
    Wrong. Wrong. Wrong. Bwahahahahahahaha.

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    And yea I know it's not fair to compare the ls1 with more cubes to a blwn cobra, but tell that to the cobra guys cause there the ones that have been bragging about beating n/a ls1's and force the comparison to happen, like I said big freakin deal that a blwn cobra is barely faster than a stock n/a ls1.
    Cobra owners force the comparison. WTF. You do remember your original post do you not?

    I'm not impressed at all with the supercharged cobras even with mods cause they suck for being blown and barely can outrun a mild free mod and bolt on camaro.
    Pot, meet kettle.

    You need to grown the hell up.

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    Just explain to him what it is pumped.

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    I barely scanned over your two posts above. Your grammar skills make for a tough read. I also personally don't like reading "brutha" slang crap or "da dis" or "da dat" crap either.

    In all those two drawn out posts with a few pics you still do not have a single time sheet. Hum? How did you say it in the original post, "I've been on more tracks this year than you've been in your life". Since my car has been in official races such as Fun Ford Weekend with an official car number 19, bumping your gums is not impressing me.

    but for the record the lame trash that pumped o3's is saying is not true
    You must be related to Keith Olbermann. Um, I posted a time sheet and a dyno sheet. A stock 03 Cobra will do 12.5's easy. Evan Smith even did better than that but I don't recall just how much better. I don't judge a car by what the average driver does or what I see at the track. The 03 Cobra is a 12.5 car. Fact. I ran 8.00 at Wilkesboro bone stock on teh stock F1's at 97 mph at 1500 feet. I couldn't crack 7's. Then I added ET Streets, catback, drop in K&N and a 2.93 pulley and 7.53. Fact.

    Let's see if I have you right.

    1. You beat 480 rwhp Cobras with an LS1 making 300 rwhp give or take 10-15. Talk about lame.

    2. You aint impressed by Cobras. Lame Part Deux.

    3. You hate Cobras and probably the people that drive them. I believe you.

    4. You make comparisons to a Cobra and yet you whine that it's Cobra owners that make the comparisons. You do need to get out of your sand box.

    Plus before you cobra guys start crying I've raced three other more stock terminator cobras before my mods and was trading off a few wins and a few losses. Sorry no video guys especially for the nay sayers that will probably be ford owners who have lost there way from svo.com.
    5. Oh, please, please Mr. Cobra. Let me post my dog dung and please don't flame me. Booohoooo. Well?

    6. Um, I'm not impressed with your Italiano heritage or your pic. As I said before, if you have to puff yourself up like a Mockingbird everytime a sparrow lands beside you, you would be the last one I'd be worried about.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Street Lethal View Post
    Blown, is that you in that pic, with the white camaro? If so, you look a little bit like that dude from Ultimate Fighter (season one), but I forget his name though. He was the guy who fought Stephen Bonner (think his name was Forrest, or Griffin or Forest Griffin, or something like that lol).....
    For some reason Billy Bob Thorton comes to mind. I'm trying to figure out if he's more like Billy Bob in Tombstone at the saloon before Kurt Russel escorted his loud mouth out of the bar or the dude in Bad Santa that made contact with Billy Bob at another bar and the dude catches Billy Bob out in the parking lot:

    Little Guy: "I am not gay"

    Bill Bob: "I never said you were"

    Little guy jumps on Billy Bob.

    Little Guy: "Whose the bitch now".

    He looked like a frog trying to hump a German Sheperd.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mogs01gt View Post
    Just explain to him what it is pumped.
    Piss on his ass. It's funny reading his attmpts to even understand how ther IC and HE work on an 03.

    He's the ASE "sertified mekanik", modiphies of crotch rokets, power ader eckspert, Cobra brain, S..SV...S..SV....SV..OO...oo... SV.T..T.. what the hell. SV sumtin aint it. What difference does it make anyway when you aint impressed. Well, Carrol Shelby was impressed enough to put his name on the GT500. And who is blwncamaro?

    Um, I've rode sport bikes well into my 40's junior and have bones stuck out in the wrong places to prove it. I even met Jamie Hacking here in NC oneday and had a little fun between his STi and my 03. Nothing serious. I won't street race but he sure as hell didn't mind letting it rip. Nobody, and I mean nobody that rides or works on sport bikes call them crotch rockets.

    Have you found Arroyo Seco on the map yet?

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    did he beat a 480rwhp cobra with or without a 150shot??????? i never read the org post

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    what a waste of internet space...each of you run down the track and post a scan of your timeslip...arguement over.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pumped03 View Post
    Wrong. Wrong. Wrong. Bwahahahahahahaha.
    What a FAG

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