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This is a discussion on My T/A vs 01 Stang VID within the Kill Stories forums, part of the Racing Forums category; Originally Posted by Z28_06374 Show me were you have seen a stock cobra run a 12.4 on street tires...or even ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Z28_06374 View Post
    Show me were you have seen a stock cobra run a 12.4 on street tires...or even on drag radials. Pull the sc belt ,then lets see what it really can do... We all know what happens when a sc or turbo is slapped onto on a ls1.
    To tell you the truth, I haven't seen one run that fast. Because most of the time, people buy them because they already have a supercharger and have no idea how to drive them, so they there for run shitty times. I hear it is hard to drive a Terminator

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    Quote Originally Posted by Y2K_CAMARO View Post
    To tell you the truth, I haven't seen one run that fast. Because most of the time, people buy them because they already have a supercharger and have no idea how to drive them, so they there for run shitty times. I hear it is hard to drive a Terminator
    Met a guy at the track one night that had a pullied, exhaust, intake, 4.10 (or 4.11 I can't remember) gears, and dr's Termi running low 12's...like 12.20's, and he said he normally runs in the 11.7x-11.8x range. It was on a Friday night though...

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    Quote Originally Posted by 01ws6er View Post
    Met a guy at the track one night that had a pullied, exhaust, intake, 4.10 (or 4.11 I can't remember) gears, and dr's Termi running low 12's...like 12.20's, and he said he normally runs in the 11.7x-11.8x range. It was on a Friday night though...
    Hum, could he just not drive it you think? Or is that what they would normally run?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Y2K_CAMARO View Post
    Hum, could he just not drive it you think? Or is that what they would normally run?
    Friday night at this track is a free for all, run whatever...I bet you could ride a bicycle down the track Prep isn't the best, and his car was trapping about 117 I think, so I dunno. Every time I've been there on a friday the prep is so so, but I hear it's excellent on the weekends when it counts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 01ws6er View Post
    Friday night at this track is a free for all, run whatever...I bet you could ride a bicycle down the track Prep isn't the best, and his car was trapping about 117 I think, so I dunno. Every time I've been there on a friday the prep is so so, but I hear it's excellent on the weekends when it counts.
    Trapping 117 and only running low 12's. Damn, that just dont sound right

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    Quote Originally Posted by Y2K_CAMARO View Post
    Trapping 117 and only running low 12's. Damn, that just dont sound right
    I know he was running around 12.2x but again, I'm not 100% positive on the trap speed...I thought it was 117 but I could be wrong! A LOT of cars run on friday nights!

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    Well, I hope to put down some good times myself. I'm going to the track on Friday, its like some kind of Mustang drag day. So, I'll see what some of them run then

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    Quote Originally Posted by lemons12 View Post
    again man.... comprehend.... i never said anything about stock... just like you said, who said anything about stock.... when the mods start coming, 12.4 is slow.. period, no if ands or buts.. you cant say, "it runs 12.4, but for what it has its fast"

    that doesnt work... a 12.4 is a 12.4 and when you are talking about track times, usually your not talking stock cars. so go to your local track...... let that 12.4 show up there and then go in the stands and watch, you also will think that is slow..
    So when will you consider a car fast? When it's in the 6's LOL! How can you base a cars performance level off of YOUR standards? That's all your doing. Your saying how you feel. IMO, I don't think you should bash another guy for running 12.40's just because you reportedly run quicker. Your talking like a guy that runs 8's and not 11's. If I were these guys I wouldn't have even got all stirred up because from the beginning it looked like you were here to shake things up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 99 Kobra View Post
    How many '03/'04 Mustang Cobras have you beaten, but didn't bother to report?

    3- 03/04 Cobras *not counting saleens and non supercharged cobras..... I have never posted one kill story.

    And the truth is I dont even acknowledge a mustang as a seroius threat on the street anymore, unless it is heavliy modded then the outcome is usually the same..... overated!


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    Any car can be fast as hell, it's all about what you put into it. Run what you brung. I've posted this vid before, but it's just too good not to again. My friend's 87 Mustang, shut my stupid mouth about chevy vs. ford bullcrap....doesn't matter in the end, it's really about money, and he has more than me

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    Quote Originally Posted by big hammer View Post
    sooo..... mustangs suck...
    NOT 03/04 Cobras

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    Quote Originally Posted by mogs01gt View Post
    His car is royal fucked up. I know fox bodies with a simple single turbo setup running mid to high 10s on stock bottom ends, stock intake with 185 heads..
    A serious single turbo setup is an entirely different story. Much more efficient. A supercharger is more than likely not going to get that job done without the support of a higher flowing intake manifold.

    Quote Originally Posted by mogs01gt View Post
    That Mustang in this video was pathetic, that car sure didnt seem like it had any mods done.
    Well wouldn't you agree that all N/A 99-04 2-valve's are pathetic to some point? Those cars are hard pressed for 11.90's with heads, cams, intake, full bolt-ons, full exhaust, gears, drivetrain/suspension upgrades, massive weight reduction, slicks, skinnies, the whole nine. If you ever get a chance read the old "Two-Valve Shootout" article in Muscle Mustangs & Fast Fords.

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    Quote Originally Posted by N20LT4 View Post
    Well wouldn't you agree that all N/A 99-04 2-valve's are pathetic to some point? Those cars are hard pressed for 11.90's with heads, cams, intake, full bolt-ons, full exhaust, gears, drivetrain/suspension upgrades, massive weight reduction, slicks, skinnies, the whole nine. If you ever get a chance read the old "Two-Valve Shootout" article in Muscle Mustangs & Fast Fords.
    I've read it and spoke to a few of those contestants. No they arent "hard pressed" to hit 11's. They are pathetic when not done corretly. The lack of bore is the biggest issue. The big bore kits are running bad ass!!
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    I know this guy and he only has a heads+cams setup with a stock intake on his car. Yes the interior is stripped(race seats) but it can be driven on the street with out any issues. It is an auto however. Bill Putnam was running high 11s as well with stock heads with a VT cam and bullitt intake. Stock shortblock.

    Now 2vs with built bottom ends and non-stock intakes are running 10s with no issues.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mogs01gt View Post
    I've read it and spoke to a few of those contestants. No they arent "hard pressed" to hit 11's. They are pathetic when not done corretly. The lack of bore is the biggest issue. The big bore kits are running bad ass!!.
    Most of the guys in that contest were not new to the modular game, and had already had vast knowledge of the 2-valve engines during the time of that shootout. Those cars were pretty much built as good as it gets for a 2v motor. I would consider them done correctly.

    Quote Originally Posted by mogs01gt View Post
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    I know this guy and he only has a heads+cams setup with a stock intake on his car. Yes the interior is stripped(race seats) but it can be driven on the street with out any issues. It is an auto however. Bill Putnam was running high 11s as well with stock heads with a VT cam and bullitt intake. Stock shortblock. .
    Ehh...okay. 11.90's with a fully-built setup including built suspension, slicks, and NO BACK SEATS...I would say they could be considered 'hard pressed' for 11's alright. Not trying to be a di*k Mogs, just honest. Now those motors can be downright nasty with forced induction.

    Quote Originally Posted by mogs01gt View Post
    Now 2vs with built bottom ends and non-stock intakes are running 10s with no issues.
    With a "POWER-ADDER", yes!

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    Quote Originally Posted by N20LT4 View Post
    Most of the guys in that contest were not new to the modular game, and had already had vast knowledge of the 2-valve engines during the time of that shootout. Those cars were pretty much built as good as it gets for a 2v motor. I would consider them done correctly.
    Correct, at the TIME they were pretty close to the best you can get. Now those mods are WAY behind the current times.
    Ehh...okay. 11.90's with a fully-built setup including built suspension, slicks, and NO BACK SEATS...I would say they could be considered 'hard pressed' for 11's alright. Not trying to be a di*k Mogs, just honest. Now those motors can be downright nasty with forced induction.
    Fully built?? LMAO what makes it fully built? The short block is stock, it has heads, cams, aftermarket suspension. Its a very simple built. Of course the rearend is built to handle the slicks. There is nothing "fully built" about Kurt's car.
    With a "POWER-ADDER", yes!
    negative, Ken Bjonnes car was running 10s N/A with a +.020 bore and the same Fox Lake heads I have on my car. He was running Fox Lake after market intake as well. Now dont you think with a bore and a stroke that brings the 4.6 to over a 5.0 displacement can reach tens easy with well over 30 more hp?
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    Quote Originally Posted by mogs01gt View Post
    Fully built?? LMAO what makes it fully built? The short block is stock, it has heads, cams, aftermarket suspension. Its a very simple built. Of course the rearend is built to handle the slicks. There is nothing "fully built" about Kurt's car.
    Okay, well lets call it HEAVILY built then. Does that make you feel better LOL! I'd bet if it were an LT- or LS1 with H/C and all that other junk you would consider it "fully-built". I mean besides the fact that it's missing a stroker crank, bored cylinders, and higher compression what else isn't built?

    Quote Originally Posted by mogs01gt View Post
    negative, Ken Bjonnes car was running 10s N/A with a +.020 bore and the same Fox Lake heads I have on my car. He was running Fox Lake after market intake as well. Now dont you think with a bore and a stroke that brings the 4.6 to over a 5.0 displacement can reach tens easy with well over 30 more hp?

    Umm...I believe the 10-second car driven by Ken at Modular Performance you are referring to is powered by a four-valve. Correct me if i'm wrong!

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    Quote Originally Posted by N20LT4 View Post
    Okay, well lets call it HEAVILY built then. Does that make you feel better LOL! I'd bet if it were an LT- or LS1 with H/C and all that other junk you would consider it "fully-built". I mean besides the fact that it's missing a stroker crank, bored cylinders, and higher compression what else isn't built?
    No I dont consider that fully built. When nothing is left stock on the engine, its fully built. Like Fox bodies with windsor style engines with aftermarket blocks, internals, heads etc etc. That is a fully built engine. Plus its an ls1, you dont need heads. Stock ported heads can easily put an ls1 in the 10s on the stock bore with aftermarket suspension. Now a stock ls1 in a Fox body can put that car into the 10s or probably low 11s without touching the engine.
    Umm...I believe the 10-second car driven by Ken at Modular Performance you are referring to is powered by a four-valve. Correct me if i'm wrong!
    You are correct that is current has a 4v in it but 3 years ago, when it had the 2v in it. He ran hit 10s in that car on the .020 bore. The big bore stroker kits are making some awesome power in 2vs. Still with stock aluminum blocks and heads.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mogs01gt View Post
    No I dont consider that fully built. When nothing is left stock on the engine, its fully built. .
    I can agree to that. Still very modded though.

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    Plus its an ls1, you dont need heads.
    Stock castings or aftermarket, whatever the case may be, as long as they are "touched" they can be considered built.

    Quote Originally Posted by mogs01gt View Post
    Stock ported heads can easily put an ls1 in the 10s on the stock bore with aftermarket suspension. Now a stock ls1 in a Fox body can put that car into the 10s or probably low 11s without touching the engine.
    Probably 11's with a stock LS1 engine and supporting drivetrain/suspension/weight reduction mods.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 01ws6er View Post
    met a guy at the track one night that had a pullied, exhaust, intake, 4.10 (or 4.11 i can't remember) gears, and dr's termi running low 12's...like 12.20's, and he said he normally runs in the 11.7x-11.8x range. It was on a friday night though...

    Irs ftl!

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    And the truth is I dont even acknowledge a mustang as a seroius threat on the street anymore, unless it is heavliy modded then the outcome is usually the same..... overated!


    Im with this guy!

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