my formula vs my buddys gt

**ls1wallen** · 07-10-2009, 01:26 PM

so i have a all stock formula nothing done to it. he has a 98 gt mustang with a bigger throttle body, bigger injectors and manifold. he has been giving me shit about driving a GM for years. so i finally call him out. we do a 30 pull. we are head to head for about 2 seconds then i just slaughter him.

**anniversary30** · 07-10-2009, 01:31 PM

Now tell him to go buy a f body and shut his trap. Me and my bud go through this all the time except his stang is fast ! He's got and 04 cobra that has been played with a touch.

**Damon33** · 07-10-2009, 01:33 PM

Nice

**Zinergy** · 07-10-2009, 01:50 PM

Good job, bolt on 2v mustangs are always ego boosters.

**Superluminal** · 07-10-2009, 08:20 PM

Seriously, that model/year Mustang GT only had 225hp stock. There are bolt on Civics that can beat it. It's pitiful. Unless these cars have extensive modifications, they are slow as dirt. I remember I was in my friends daily, and Chevy Malibu automatic, and we beat a mid 90s Mustang GT with mods, from a roll.

In my opinion, you shouldn't touch those cars unless your planing on pulling out that shitty motor and replacing it with something that will get the car moving. The chassis isn't terrible though, so it's a good car to build up if you have a motor setup for it.

**preston1980** · 07-11-2009, 02:44 AM

Originally Posted by ls1wallen

so i have a all stock formula nothing done to it. he has a 98 gt mustang with a bigger throttle body, bigger injectors and manifold. he has been giving me shit about driving a GM for years. so i finally call him out. we do a 30 pull. we are head to head for about 2 seconds then i just slaughter him.

nice kill, you guys both autos or is one a stick? I know a stockish 4.6 2v car is slow, but an auto is even slower.

To make the race more fun, you should let him take off first, then see how long it takes to pass him. That is a lot of fun.

Did he give any excuses, or did he say good job?

**9T8W66** · 07-11-2009, 05:13 AM

The outcome of this race was clear long before it started.
Even if it was a 4v Cobra the result would have been the same.

**big hammer** · 07-13-2009, 04:13 AM

Originally Posted by 9T8W66

The outcome of this race was clear long before it started.
Even if it was a 4v Cobra the result would have been the same.

yeah the n\a cobras are no hell either--- better then the 2v's though

**99 Kobra** · 07-13-2009, 01:28 PM

Originally Posted by Superluminal

Seriously, that model/year Mustang GT only had 225hp stock. There are bolt on Civics that can beat it. It's pitiful. Unless these cars have extensive modifications, they are slow as dirt. I remember I was in my friends daily, and Chevy Malibu automatic, and we beat a mid 90s Mustang GT with mods, from a roll.

In my opinion, you shouldn't touch those cars unless your planing on pulling out that shitty motor and replacing it with something that will get the car moving. The chassis isn't terrible though, so it's a good car to build up if you have a motor setup for it.

It only has 225hp, but it has 300 ft. lbs. of torque. You calling the 5.0 a "shitty motor"? I'll be polite and not trash your rice.

**clg82** · 07-13-2009, 02:12 PM

Originally Posted by Superluminal

Seriously, that model/year Mustang GT only had 225hp stock. There are bolt on Civics that can beat it. It's pitiful. Unless these cars have extensive modifications, they are slow as dirt. I remember I was in my friends daily, and Chevy Malibu automatic, and we beat a mid 90s Mustang GT with mods, from a roll.

In my opinion, you shouldn't touch those cars unless your planing on pulling out that shitty motor and replacing it with something that will get the car moving. The chassis isn't terrible though, so it's a good car to build up if you have a motor setup for it.

A guy I know in town that rebuilds cars for a living at a local speed shop said they had three mustangs in his shop right now getting ls1 swaps....what a total kick in the go-nads!!!

**Superluminal** · 07-13-2009, 08:39 PM

Originally Posted by 99 Kobra

It only has 225hp, but it has 300 ft. lbs. of torque. You calling the 5.0 a "shitty motor"? I'll be polite and not trash your rice.

Ummm..... a '98 GT has a 281ci 4.6L, which when you're talking about standard American V8s, is pretty small and weak. They also ran 15s from the factory. It is a shitty motor in every sense. Unless these motors are forced induction or built, it isn't going to go anywhere. I have never seen an impressive Modular 4.6L (sub 1999, non-Cobra) in person.

The 5.0Ls that came in the late 3rd gen, and early 4th gen Mustangs and the new 4.6Ls (1999+) of the 4th/5th gens are a different story.

.....and ummm, my cars are far from rice. Both are completely stock exterior, no fart can, no nothing.... and both have run 10s. If that's rice, then please explain to me the definition of a car that isn't rice.

**stangereater** · 07-13-2009, 10:15 PM

I agree the 2valve 4.6 BLOW! The 4v respond real well to mods. Ford really didn't get it together till they put a eaton on that hog! As far as putting a LS1 in a mustang I wouldn't waste my money, I mean their allright motors but theirs easier ways of getting power without haveing to change all that s*it! I'm sure the trannys are different, harness, mounts and the list goes on! So I seriously doubt anyone with any since would do that! That's just retarded!!! SO I'M CALLING BS

**Frost** · 07-13-2009, 11:12 PM

Originally Posted by stangereater

I agree the 2valve 4.6 BLOW! The 4v respond real well to mods. Ford really didn't get it together till they put a eaton on that hog! As far as putting a LS1 in a mustang I wouldn't waste my money, I mean their allright motors but theirs easier ways of getting power without haveing to change all that s*it! I'm sure the trannys are different, harness, mounts and the list goes on! So I seriously doubt anyone with any since would do that! That's just retarded!!! SO I'M CALLING BS

There are a TON of LS1-swapped stangs, put the crack pipe down

**Zinergy** · 07-14-2009, 05:43 AM

Originally Posted by Superluminal

Ummm..... a '98 GT has a 281ci 4.6L, which when you're talking about standard American V8s, is pretty small and weak. They also ran 15s from the factory. It is a shitty motor in every sense. Unless these motors are forced induction or built, it isn't going to go anywhere. I have never seen an impressive Modular 4.6L (sub 1999, non-Cobra) in person.

The 5.0Ls that came in the late 3rd gen, and early 4th gen Mustangs and the new 4.6Ls (1999+) of the 4th/5th gens are a different story.

.....and ummm, my cars are far from rice. Both are completely stock exterior, no fart can, no nothing.... and both have run 10s. If that's rice, then please explain to me the definition of a car that isn't rice.

The 5.0 liter blocks still ahve there flaws. Like the super thin lifter galley which you can almost count on to crack at 500+whp and higher than stock rpms. Atleast the 4.6 block with built internals can take more power. I have friends right now making over 470whp scared to add power mods because they think they will split there 5.0 blocks.

**fox1x** · 07-14-2009, 06:04 AM

There are a TON of LS1-swapped stangs, put the crack pipe down

Since you specifically said "TON" ... show me 10

**Zinergy** · 07-14-2009, 06:11 AM

Originally Posted by fox1x

Since you specifically said "TON" ... show me 10

no there really are. I have seen probably 5 or so at great lakes alone. And a couple fairmonts too

**Mike0202** · 07-14-2009, 07:35 AM

Originally Posted by ls1wallen

so i have a all stock formula nothing done to it. he has a 98 gt mustang with a bigger throttle body, bigger injectors and manifold. he has been giving me shit about driving a GM for years. so i finally call him out. we do a 30 pull. we are head to head for about 2 seconds then i just slaughter him.

Lol. What a waste of gas/ Just watch out for terminators or you may get terminated

**Zinergy** · 07-14-2009, 07:50 AM

Originally Posted by Mike0202

Lol. What a waste of gas/ Just watch out for terminators or you may get terminated

Lol there are alot of fast stangs out there that arent termis.

**99 Kobra** · 07-14-2009, 08:14 AM

Originally Posted by Superluminal

Ummm..... a '98 GT has a 281ci 4.6L, which when you're talking about standard American V8s, is pretty small and weak. They also ran 15s from the factory. It is a shitty motor in every sense. Unless these motors are forced induction or built, it isn't going to go anywhere. I have never seen an impressive Modular 4.6L (sub 1999, non-Cobra) in person.

The 5.0Ls that came in the late 3rd gen, and early 4th gen Mustangs and the new 4.6Ls (1999+) of the 4th/5th gens are a different story.

.....and ummm, my cars are far from rice. Both are completely stock exterior, no fart can, no nothing.... and both have run 10s. If that's rice, then please explain to me the definition of a car that isn't rice.

My bad. The last model year for the 5.0 engine was '95.

**Frost** · 07-14-2009, 10:46 AM

Originally Posted by fox1x

Since you specifically said "TON" ... show me 10

I've tuned 3 within the last 2 years (though I am not putting mustang pics up on my site) and the conversion section on ls1tech is chock full of them.

I KNOW that you guys are wrong and was letting you know before you argued about something that you were apparently somehow in the dark on.

Too late.