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Cobalt SS vs. Grand Prix GTP vs. Honda CRX Si

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    Cobalt SSvs.Grand Prix GTPvs.Honda CRX Si - video

    2004 Grand Prix GTP Comp G Supercharged - Bone stock
    2007 Cobalt SS Supercharged, M5, CAI, clutch slipping after only 5k mi.
    1989-1991 Honda CRX Si, M5 - Claims he runs 12.1 1/4's
    Says he bought it with some mods, but i think it probably runs like 15's.
    Anyway...i work with all the guys that have these cars, and i see them everyday, and i know that CRX sucks. Oh, and it has no power adder (i.e. turbo, SC), either.

    Well, we all get off work, and head to a back road just around the building. We check for cops 'cuz they're known to hide out around there. Coast is clear.

    Left: Honda CRX (BRIGHT YELLOW!!)
    Middle: Grand Prix GTP (Black)
    Right: Cobalt SS (Black)

    Grand Prix honks it off. After 3, we all go (btw, i was the passenger in the Cobalt), and the Grand Prix starts pulling off the line right away. 2nd gear in the Cobalt, starts pulling toward the GTP...CRX is like 1 car back already. 3rd gear, Cobalt is inching closer, and by the time he hits 4th, hes got about 3/4 of a car on the GTP...the CRX is about 2 1/2 cars back at this point...lol. I think we hit about 100, maybe like 90?? I'm not sure, I was paying more attention to the approaching stop sign and the lead we pulled on the GTP than the speedo. We stop at the stop sign, and we're like "Where's Dave?" (CRX driver), and he pulls up about a second later, and he says "It's my exhaust, I have no back pressure (or some bullshit, 'cuz i think he has a leak somewhere), but I was pullin' on you guys." Well, if he runs a 12.1 in that car, then that must mean that the GTP and the Cobalt SS run about 11.8 and 11.5, right? I just think its funny that his car got shit on after he talks about it so much. I honestly think I can beat him in my Bonneville SSE. haha. I want to run him just to see if I can.

    Anyway...I know I wasn't the driver in either car, so if I'm not allowed to post this because of that, I will remove it if told so. I will see if they want to race again so I can get it on video this time. I just thought I'd post this 'cuz it was my first "organized" street race, if you wanna call it that.

    Sorry there aren't any LS engines in this story, I just wanted to share.

    Here is the new vid:
    Last edited by kickflippin1; 07-18-2008 at 01:28 AM. Reason: added video

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    sounds like fun. What do those Cobalts really run?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris Arnold View Post
    sounds like fun. What do those Cobalts really run?
    Well, the old pre '08 cars had a supercharger, the '08 and up have a turbo, I thought the supercharged cars ran 14s @ 95 MPH, Road and Track tested a turbo model and they got a 14.0 @ 101.8! One of their editors calls it "one of the best handling cars, period" Hard for me to believe that, about the little Cobalt. It has launch control, no lift shifting, pulls .92g on the skidpad and 72.4 MPH slalom. It beat a Corvette Z51, 350Z, Solstice GXP, BMW 135i, Cooper S, Lotus Elise SC, Honda S2000R!

    They were surprised also. They were using a calculation that includes skidpad, slalom, 1/4 et and MPH, fuel economy, 0-60 MPH, braking and price as tested.

    Anyway, sure is funny how people talk smack about thier car (CRX), get spanked, then make excuses. Sounds to me like the Honda driver got a great run in to keep up with those cars.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Too Fast View Post
    Well, the old pre '08 cars had a supercharger, the '08 and up have a turbo, I thought the supercharged cars ran 14s @ 95 MPH, Road and Track tested a turbo model and they got a 14.0 @ 101.8! One of their editors calls it "one of the best handling cars, period" Hard for me to believe that, about the little Cobalt. It has launch control, no lift shifting, pulls .92g on the skidpad and 72.4 MPH slalom. It beat a Corvette Z51, 350Z, Solstice GXP, BMW 135i, Cooper S, Lotus Elise SC, Honda S2000R!

    They were surprised also. They were using a calculation that includes skidpad, slalom, 1/4 et and MPH, fuel economy, 0-60 MPH, braking and price as tested.

    Anyway, sure is funny how people talk smack about thier car (CRX), get spanked, then make excuses. Sounds to me like the Honda driver got a great run in to keep up with those cars.
    The 2007 SS Supercharged runs 14.6 @ 99. Not bad for 55 less HP than the '08 turbo model, rated at 260 HP. As for the Honda, he did o.k. I hear about the damn thing everyday, so, I was glad to see him get beat. Definitely not 12.1 capable as it sits. I really think that thing is stock, but he claims its not so....plus, I cant prove it is or it isn't. Yeah, definitely was fun. Like I said, I'll see if they wanna do it again and I'll try to get some video this time.

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    Make sure to get the part on video when the CRX driver is explaining what went wrong with his 12.1 car!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Too Fast View Post
    Make sure to get the part on video when the CRX driver is explaining what went wrong with his 12.1 car!
    Haha, I will try. I just recorded his CRX vs. the owner of the cobalts winter beater Ford Escort ZX2. If anyone wants to see that, let me know and I'll post it. Oh, and I DID beat him with my Bonneville SSE. Just raced him today, and he actually tried giving me a car length, but I told him I didn't need it. Had like 2 cars on him, haha, but i didn't record it. I'll try to next time.

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    i wanna see the video of the zx2 v. the crx, thats funny shit

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    Ha ha, what a d bag! Its my exhaust, I have no back pressure! I was pulling on you guys though... Ha ha, too perfect! Please please please get that guy on camera talking about his car, it will have me and my buddies laughing for a whole day Im sure.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cant.b.caught.z28 View Post
    i wanna see the video of the zx2 v. the crx, thats funny shit
    As requested:

    this is the first race, disrupted by an oncoming vehicle (oops).
    only posted this to show out of the hole, the CRX started pulling before he had to move over.



    after this 2nd race, we pulled onto a main road and got side by side, and the CRX driver told ZX2 that he gave him first gear. i'm positive the CRX needs a driver mod.

    Enjoy.

    p.s. - note the "peace!" sign given by the CRX driver as he passes the ZX2, as if he blew him a way or something. i didn't notice that until i watched the video.
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    Ha ha ha! yes! That dude is B A in that ride! I still want to see him on video talking about his yellow rocket..
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    So, a ZX2 is like a what, high 16s car with a stick shift? He did pull that Escort in the 2nd race, all that (missing) low end torque killed him off the line. So, this looks like the CRX is maybe a low 16s car in the quarter.

    It is a lot more fun to drive a slow car fast than a fast car slow! Tell your buddy we are not impressed with his yellow rocket, can you show him this thread? That should make his day.

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    In my experiance the loudest person is usally the slowest. I usally keep my mouth shut and just watch ricers talk up there car. I let my car do the talking for me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rapter34 View Post
    In my experiance the loudest person is usally the slowest. I usally keep my mouth shut and just watch ricers talk up there car. I let my car do the talking for me.
    thats EXACTLY why i want a WS-6. well that, and its an incredibly bad ass looking car. and the mod list is insane...well, i could go on, but i'm just in love with that car.

    and hammer, i know both cars are gay. we just did this to show him he doesn't have a 12.1 car, and that his car sucks. all in fun, and a little hatin', lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zachj03 View Post
    I still want to see him on video talking about his yellow rocket..
    As requested:

    The vid is like 8:49, sorry its so long, but i was trying to get him to talk as much as i could. Also, there really isn't any movement in the video, since i had to do some "undercover" work, lol. the camera is hidden behind a bag and some rubber gloves. oh, and he just got back with wendys, thats why you hear "how much was your baconator?" But, the audio is pretty good. a few parts are hard to hear what he says, if you miss it, just rewind it and turn it up. you should be able to hear it a little easier, at least i was anyway.

    I dont know crap about imports, so if anything hes saying is right or wrong, let me know.

    After turning off the camera, i started talking about how i like some imports. I was talking about the Subaru WRX STI, then he mentioned that it had a boxter motor (which i knew, but didn't remember 'til he mentioned it), and i said "but an STI would beat a Boxter." (will it? i think so, let me know) He replied with "I can beat a Boxter." HA!
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    "Can you tell it to run a 12.1?" "You laugh now but wait, just wait." "No I laugh cause you almost lost to that escort." Ha ha ha ah ha ah ha!! That is priceless man. cant wait to show my friends. I love to hear how serious this guy is about his yellow rocket.. Thought it was funny how you call him on his bs too!

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    Ha ha, you can "Johnny Ricer" this guy all day, every day! He's going to be a viral video star if you keep this up.

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    So at work today, the kid walks in, and the first thing out of his mouth is: "12.1 isn't so unbelievable now." and i reply: "Whys that? Did you get your new computer?" and he answers back with: "Yeah. I put six cars on a Cobra." WTF is wrong with this kid?!? He said it was from a dig too, and that it was like, the '03 body style. Tomorrow he will be racing the Cobalt SS and the Grand Prix GXP again. I WILL have my camera this time.

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    please tell me you got this Cobra killer on film...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raptor285 View Post
    please tell me you got this Cobra killer on film...
    Yeah, I did. Post #9 and #15.

    And this one:

    that is the CRX you hear hitting the limiter going into 3rd.

    I just added a new video today. Got the Grand Prix, Cobalt SS, and CRX in this one. Oh, and this is AFTER he got his new computer or ECM or whatever he called it. So after the race, we went back to work and the Cobalt SS driver was like, "Yeah! 12.1 second car!" He replies with, "Shut the fuck up before i get out of the car and beat your fucking ass!!" Also, he had his buddy in the car, so I think thats why he was acting tough. Damn I wish you guys could see him so you would know how un-tough he really is. He was really serious when he said it. Very upset with the results. I wish I could have gotten his reaction to what he said on tape. Earlier that day, he said he wasn't going to race because his exhaust wasn't fixed.

    The GTP driver says, "Why not man? You beat a Cobra by six cars." He replied with, "I know, but I want my exhaust so I can beat you by even more." Cobalt SS driver says, "Uh-uh! Get his ass up here." So he calls him, and he says OK. While in the middle of his conversation, CRX's friend says, "I got a car to race you with. It runs a 13.1." WTF is up with these .1 cars? Anyway, he wouldn't stop talkin' shit about the Cobalt, so they are racing next week.

    Fucking ricer kids.

    After me and the Cobalt driver left, the GTP and the CRX did a few more runs. He missed 2nd once and 4th once. He definitely needs a driver mod.

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