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99 Z28 vs. 03-04 Mach 1

This is a discussion on 99 Z28 vs. 03-04 Mach 1 within the Kill Stories forums, part of the Racing Forums category; Originally Posted by rsuplita I didn't get a chance ever to race one in my 2000 SS (stock), but I ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by rsuplita
    I didn't get a chance ever to race one in my 2000 SS (stock), but I ran one on the interstate from ~60mph in my 2005 C6 Z51 and all I could hear was his engine roar for as he downshifted and I left him like he was chained to the ground! LOL
    400 HP stock in a what, 2800 lb car? vs. 325 HP stock in a 3750 lb car.



    Still, a kill is a kill.

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    you are right, my friend.

    i never claimed it was a fair match-up!


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    I'd love to own a C6. Those cars are just pure sex on wheels.

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    Quote Originally Posted by toneloc60
    400 HP stock in a what, 2800 lb car? vs. 325 HP stock in a 3750 lb car.



    Still, a kill is a kill.
    I think those new vettes are like 3100 to 3200 lb. The mach1s are about 3450 or so. Every lb counts though, the vette would need a fat ass passenger, and shut down a cylinder for it to be close with a mach1 driver being alone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wesman
    Mach 1's are actually pretty damn close to LS1 F-Bodys in terms of performance. I'd still give the edge to the LS1, but it should be close.

    Obviously the author has mods, so that tilts the tables a lot
    Stock for stock they are real close. Machs are worthy of respect.

    Until you do one bolt on to your car. The gap grows FAST once you start modding.

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    Quote Originally Posted by robb4964
    Until you do one bolt on to your car. The gap grows FAST once you start modding.
    They make mods for Mach 1's too though....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Angus66 View Post
    They make mods for Mach 1's too though....
    I think he is talking about mod for mod. Like long tubes on an LS1 deliver more power than the same mod on a Mach1.

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    You have a full bolt on cam'd LS1 and your wondering why you left a stock mach.. ...In stock form they run pretty similar.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Antz97ZNJ View Post
    You have a full bolt on cam'd LS1 and your wondering why you left a stock mach.. ...In stock form they run pretty similar.
    No, I was wondering why he got took out so badly. I know they run hard. I had an 01 Cobra, and supposedly, stock for stock, the Mach1 is a hair faster than the 01. I figured I would have two or three car lengths, not more than a BUSLENGTH.

    I think he might have let off when he saw it was useless to continue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Roastem View Post
    No, I was wondering why he got took out so badly. I know they run hard. I had an 01 Cobra, and supposedly, stock for stock, the Mach1 is a hair faster than the 01.
    I also had an '01 Cobra, and I can safely say that the Mach is more than a "hair" faster when driven correctly.

    Quote Originally Posted by Roastem View Post
    I figured I would have two or three car lengths, not more than a BUSLENGTH.
    Race a properly-modded bolt-on Mach next time & the outcome will likely be very different...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Angus66 View Post
    I also had an '01 Cobra, and I can safely say that the Mach is more than a "hair" faster when driven correctly.



    Race a properly-modded bolt-on Mach next time & the outcome will likely be very different...
    I have raced some "properly modded 03 Cobra's," and put the smack down on one, and was even with the other (and I ain't put the heads on yet). If you got a Mach1 that is properly modded in this area that wants a piece, then I will happily oblige. I would rather race you, but I ain't driving all the way to Pennsylvania.

    Maybe you post on a Mustang website and can get some locals to run me. I will be more than happy to bust 'em for you. Hopefully, they will bring a video camera, and you can post the results on here, just so people don't think I am 'ing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Roastem View Post
    I have raced some "properly modded 03 Cobra's," and put the smack down on one, and was even with the other (and I ain't put the heads on yet). If you got a Mach1 that is properly modded in this area that wants a piece, then I will happily oblige. I would rather race you, but I ain't driving all the way to Pennsylvania.

    Maybe you post on a Mustang website and can get some locals to run me. I will be more than happy to bust 'em for you. Hopefully, they will bring a video camera, and you can post the results on here, just so people don't think I am 'ing.
    I didn't say you were bs'ing, just that racing a non-stock Mach would be "different" than the race you posted...

    ... my bolt-on Mach (no internal engine mods whatsoever) runs 7.3 - 7.4 @ 92 mph+ in the 1/8th & 11.5 - 11.6 @ 117 mph+ in the 1/4.

    What does your SS run?

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    Oh god, here we go again.
    Also i will not be able to make that tourny next month so i will not be up there. Maybe we can meet at a dragstrip or something, or half way!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Angus66 View Post
    I didn't say you were bs'ing, just that racing a non-stock Mach would be "different" than the race you posted...

    ... my bolt-on Mach (no internal engine mods whatsoever) runs 7.3 - 7.4 @ 92 mph+ in the 1/8th & 11.5 - 11.6 @ 117 mph+ in the 1/4.

    What does your SS run?
    Damn, nice numbers. I only got a time on it twice in its current form, and out of the two I got a best of 8.36 @ 89 mph with a somewhat bad 60 ft of 2.15, on STREET tires. I got a set of heads about to get planted on there, so we will see what it will run then with a set of slicks. Mid-11's with just bolt-ons on a Mach1 sounds a little far fetched. Must have had 4.56's gears and a full suspension mods also?

    By the way, it is a Z28, not an SS.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Roastem View Post
    Damn, nice numbers.
    Thanks.

    Quote Originally Posted by Roastem View Post
    I only got a time on it twice in its current form, and out of the two I got a best of 8.36 @ 89 mph with a somewhat bad 60 ft of 2.15, on STREET tires. I got a set of heads about to get planted on there, so we will see what it will run then with a set of slicks.
    Not too shabby...

    Quote Originally Posted by Roastem View Post
    Mid-11's with just bolt-ons on a Mach1 sounds a little far fetched. Must have had 4.56's gears and a full suspension mods also?
    My Mach has 4.30's (I do have a set of 4.56's in the garage waiting to go in though... ) & suspension mods, which are both bolt-ons.
    Best two N/A slips to date:



    Quote Originally Posted by Roastem View Post
    By the way, it is a Z28, not an SS.
    Oops - my bad....

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    No 60 ft time on either of those timeslips?

    That thing is flying. You tagged any 03 Cobra's with it yet?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Angus66 View Post
    Thanks.



    Not too shabby...



    My Mach has 4.30's (I do have a set of 4.56's in the garage waiting to go in though... ) & suspension mods, which are both bolt-ons.
    Best two N/A slips to date:

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    Oops - my bad....
    Damn that car is quick with a great mph. Just shows what people can do with a car when they know what they are doing. I'm sure you just provided some education to many people. I also noticed the 60ft not there, but it had be good looking at the 1/8 mile time. Probably low 1.60s if I had to guess. With a poweradder, that car will fall into the 10s on accident.

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    A full bolt on/cammed LS1 would beat a stock mach one pretty bad. They have ran high 11's low 12's as to where a mach 1 stock generally runs low to mid 13's...so theres your bus lengths. They run close but LS1's are still considerbly quicker up top stock..Being a former Cobra owner im sure you know that the wrong driver can make a mustang look slow..There definately a drivers car.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Antz97ZNJ View Post
    A full bolt on/cammed LS1 would beat a stock mach one pretty bad. They have ran high 11's low 12's as to where a mach 1 stock generally runs low to mid 13's...so theres your bus lengths. They run close but LS1's are still considerbly quicker up top stock..Being a former Cobra owner im sure you know that the wrong driver can make a mustang look slow..There definately a drivers car.

    I agree. A full bolt-on LS1 with 4.10's and STOCK 245/45/16 Goodyears is real mutha to keep from spinning too. I found that out the first time I raced the ole Z28, the FIRST night I owned it. Full power in first or second would just annihilate those stock tires on bad pavement.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Roastem View Post
    No 60 ft time on either of those timeslips?
    Quote Originally Posted by Marc87GN View Post
    I also noticed the 60ft not there, but it had be good looking at the 1/8 mile time. Probably low 1.60s if I had to guess. With a poweradder, that car will fall into the 10s on accident.
    I was kinda pissed that the 60ft clock was acting-up in that lane on & off all day - I use the 60' and 330' data to help me make suspension adjustments to lower my ET/raise mph.

    Here are some other runs made two days prior:

    60'.................1.517 (Best N/A 60' time so far this year I think)
    330'...............4.745
    1/8................7.422
    1/8 mph........90.95
    1000'.............9.745
    1/4..............11.698
    1/4 mph......115.35

    60'.................1.530
    330'...............4.733
    1/8................7.402
    1/8 mph........91.86
    1000'.............9.706
    1/4..............11.650
    1/4 mph......115.12

    60'.................1.525
    330'...............4.740
    1/8................7.414
    1/8 mph........91.96
    1000'.............9.711
    1/4..............11.648
    1/4 mph......116.47

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    Quote Originally Posted by Roastem View Post
    That thing is flying. You tagged any 03 Cobra's with it yet?
    Quote Originally Posted by Marc87GN View Post
    Damn that car is quick with a great mph. Just shows what people can do with a car when they know what they are doing. I'm sure you just provided some education to many people. With a poweradder, that car will fall into the 10s on accident.
    Thanks for the compliments guys.

    I have beaten more than one modded '03/'04 Cobra (and many stock/near-stock ones), but there are plenty faster than mid-11's so I remember that whenever I race one.

    I'm looking for upper 10's on a 100-shot in the near future...
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