99 vette/VR4/Talon/jigster 750

**Edgar Limon** · 12-16-2009, 10:08 PM

I was with my friends hanging out when I get a call from my brother saying that there is a Talon with twin turbo and a VR4 claiming they do 11's in 1/4 mile all day long. He tells me they going to love's (it's a place in our city were we hold races every friday and saturday without cops going) and that I need to race them. I get there ready to race when my brother tells me to race the jigster 750 first. I think about it and say no way I can keep up with a crotch rocket, but its not in me to turn a race down. We race and I get impressed with my car I only lost by 1/2 a car so i am happy (reached 125 mph). The VR4 I was going to race left after he saw me race. Then I went to the talon and said ready to go? He just told me I am a vette killer and you not worth my gas. I got mad but can't make anybody race next time I guess.

**c5z28** · 12-16-2009, 11:27 PM

forgot to mention mods

**Spikito** · 12-17-2009, 07:43 AM

The talon said YOURE a vette killer?

**c5z28** · 12-17-2009, 10:36 PM

Originally Posted by Spikito

The talon said YOURE a vette killer?

The talon "is" the vette killer op just didn't put parenthesis.

**big hammer** · 12-18-2009, 05:28 AM

fucking ricers

**az gt eater** · 12-18-2009, 06:21 PM

afraid he's gonna lose? and too cocky to admit it. I don't know about you guys, but ive kept me mouth shut when i know bullshit is just gonna come out

**big hammer** · 12-18-2009, 07:42 PM

do chickens have large talons?

**Superluminal** · 12-18-2009, 10:23 PM

Some Talons are Vette killers.... who would of known?

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5vQErH8Z7k4"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5vQErH8Z7k4[/ame]

Then again.............

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**fergyflyer** · 12-19-2009, 09:13 AM

Second video showed the Talon or whatever it was getting butt raped.

1st video the Vette didn't launch very good. For the car that beat it to run the way it did, either it was a high 9's car, the Z06 driver wasn't very good or the Z06 driver didn't try.

I'm not saying there aren't Talons and Eclipses that won't beat a Z06 or a Vette for that matter, but let's face it, you spend 20,000 or 30,000 making a piece of crap fast and all you have is a fast expensive piece of crap.

**Superluminal** · 12-19-2009, 12:43 PM

Originally Posted by fergyflyer

Second video showed the Talon or whatever it was getting butt raped.

1st video the Vette didn't launch very good. For the car that beat it to run the way it did, either it was a high 9's car, the Z06 driver wasn't very good or the Z06 driver didn't try.

I'm not saying there aren't Talons and Eclipses that won't beat a Z06 or a Vette for that matter, but let's face it, you spend 20,000 or 30,000 making a piece of crap fast and all you have is a fast expensive piece of crap.

The first video shows a low 11s DSM beating a stock C6 ZO6. The second video shows a Lingenfelter Corvette beating a bolt ons 13s DSM. I'm just showing you both sides of the equation.

As far as being a piece of crap, that's your preference. There are many that think American cars are pieces of crap. Just go overseas. The build quality is far behind European standards. Regardless, it depends on what you like and what you grew up with.

**fergyflyer** · 12-19-2009, 02:54 PM

Originally Posted by Superluminal

The first video shows a low 11s DSM beating a stock C6 ZO6. The second video shows a Lingenfelter Corvette beating a bolt ons 13s DSM. I'm just showing you both sides of the equation.

As far as being a piece of crap, that's your preference. There are many that think American cars are pieces of crap. Just go overseas. The build quality is far behind European standards. Regardless, it depends on what you like and what you grew up with.

I'd be glad to dispute the quality issue with you.

American car makers build some of the best quality available currently.

Look at any VW and you will see the issues there.

Toyota is recalling like crazy right now. They can't get anything right.

A low 11's DSM car shouldn't beat a C6 Z06 that badly. With the right driver the C6Z06 is a low 11's car. Some have gotten them into the 10's with just drag radials.

**Superluminal** · 12-19-2009, 04:00 PM

Originally Posted by fergyflyer

I'd be glad to dispute the quality issue with you.

American car makers build some of the best quality available currently.

Look at any VW and you will see the issues there.

Toyota is recalling like crazy right now. They can't get anything right.

A low 11's DSM car shouldn't beat a C6 Z06 that badly. With the right driver the C6Z06 is a low 11's car. Some have gotten them into the 10's with just drag radials.

I'm well aware of the capabilities of a stock C6 ZO6. I saw Ranger's car do a 10.8 with drag radials. However, on the street, anything can happen and there are bad drivers. 4WD is easier out of the hole, on the street. That DSM in the video is a low 11s DSM. You can also clearly see that the ZO6 catches the DSM's speed, but he's too far back.

As far as the quality is concerned. I've seen good stuff out of GM recently, mainly due to modeling their interior styling to that of European standards. I will not debate "current" quality with you. Truth be told, my 2001 Camaro was a plastic heap inside. My dad's 2004 Silverado has got to be one of the worst interiors I have ever seen. Not impressive. Most GM vehicles around that time were pretty poor, interior wise.

Here is the difference in quality within 5 years:

2004 Silverado:

2009 Silverado:

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2001 Camaro:

2009 Camaro:

**Rhinohuey** · 12-19-2009, 10:18 PM

just one question.......whats a jigster? Is that the same as a gixxer? lol

**chuckie669** · 12-20-2009, 06:25 AM

Are you comparing Quality or styling? I don't really think that the two cars you mentioned had great styling but the quality of the interiors isn't horrible imo. I've yet to have anything break in my 01 T/A, and I also own a 02 silverado which has probably one of the ugliest interiors, but again it seems to be built efficiently where it's easy to assemble and dissasemble, hence the very affordable nature of my truck.

Now they are definitely not as flashy as the new models. They've all compensated for what people want, flashy vehicles. Go out and see how many new cars come with 18-20" wheels stock now, vs 5-9 years ago.

Originally Posted by Superluminal

2004 Silverado:

2009 Silverado:

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2001 Camaro:

2009 Camaro:

**Spikito** · 12-20-2009, 09:19 AM

Originally Posted by Superluminal

Some Talons are Vette killers.... who would of known?

Then again.............

Not shitting you at all....this is the video that made me want a fast car in the first place....saw this, been hooked ever since

**camaroz98** · 12-20-2009, 12:02 PM

haha ill race your vette with my talon wait i got $10g's in mods is that still fair?

it was my first car i built so yeah it really does run 11's at the cost of a year of pay checks

**camaroz98** · 12-20-2009, 12:05 PM

the dsm isnt shit its american and the 4g63 block is bullet proof theres guys boosting 45psi into that block no prob i boost 30 with internals bored 30 over and a stock head

**Edgar Limon** · 12-20-2009, 06:26 PM

A Suzuki Jigster 750 is a crotch rocket and for the talon if you run high 11's it will be close race but if you run low 11's then you got me. Does not matter what car you drive so long as you love it and it's fast.

**4thGenTA** · 12-20-2009, 07:41 PM

Got to give credit for people who make there 4 bangers run into the 11s or faster. Like any car it takes time and money for your car to go fast.

**camaroz98** · 12-21-2009, 12:16 AM

Originally Posted by Edgar Limon

A Suzuki Jigster 750 is a crotch rocket and for the talon if you run high 11's it will be close race but if you run low 11's then you got me. Does not matter what car you drive so long as you love it and it's fast.

agreed and its high 11s for now still learing how to tune hoping i dont fuck anything more up