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94 Z28 6 speed Vs 01 Z28 6 speed

This is a discussion on 94 Z28 6 speed Vs 01 Z28 6 speed within the Kill Stories forums, part of the Racing Forums category; Originally Posted by karpetcm Well i just got back from attempting to race my 94 Z and it was a ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by karpetcm View Post
    Well i just got back from attempting to race my 94 Z and it was a disaster. My friend driving the 94 couldnt drive to save his life, flooring it in 5th gear then taking forever to get him side by side to even start the race. Finally i just called it off and said ill get another friend to drive my Z on a different day. I didnt think this was gonna be this difficult for him, since he drives a manual tranny to work everyday. Either way on a side note i got my Hooker exhuast and my cut out installed today after the failed race attempt and suprisingly its very quiet, did not notice any power gains ofcourse wont be enough to feel. But at idle its hardly noticable and lower rpms deep no rasp at all and higher rpms it screams but not annoying and deep, wow im very happy with the exhuast.
    You'll notice the gains from the cut-out at higher speeds. Try a high speed romp on the highway with it open and look at your speedo and you'll 'see' the difference!

    Quote Originally Posted by wooddaniel View Post
    I had a 99 GT 5 speed and the best time I ever ran was 14.2 @ 98 bone stock. The cobras were not much faster; if I remember correctly People were getting pissed at ford because the Cobra was supposed to have 320 HP and some of them ended up with 300 HP
    That was before the recall. Once the Cobra's received the 'fix' they were solid high 13-second cars.

    Quote Originally Posted by TLS_Addict View Post
    An 03/04 Mach1 is rated at 305 hp and that thing makes the older Corbra's (prior to the 390hp version Teminators) look slow and they are only a mid 13 second car.
    The Mach 1's were actually under-rated, and the Cobra was 'handicapped' by it's massive weight and IRS.
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    Much agreed. Hence why the GT500 is such a pig but at 4300 lbs its a freakin heavy car! That supercharger is a heavybugger but the termi's are bad A$$'d.

    I have run in to a few Mach's and they run solid, pretty much dead heats with every race I have had in. Lost to 1 and beat 2. The thing was as soon as we hit triple digits the LS1 starts to show its power more. I was able to catch the one that beat me to 100mph. The one I beat was an auto and the one was a 5 speed. The 5-speed was closer than the auto.

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    15.1 in a GT? LOL! My old prelude could do that with only 200HP and 156TQ.

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    My best friend owns a Mach. When my T/A was stock as well as his Mach we made several runs. He would run right with me 0-60 and actually got there a little quicker on a couple of the runs. But everytime I would pull by about 2 car lengths on the top end. Now that I have full bolt-ons and he has TB/MAF and Full exhaust he is no match!

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    Thats just it. Those cars with solid axles and 3.55 gears can launch with good tires. The 2 I beat were stock, the one I lost to had an exhaust because he has some noise. Other than that I am not sure. That 4.6 just doesnt pull like the LS1 up top.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TLS_Addict View Post
    Thats just it. Those cars with solid axles and 3.55 gears can launch with good tires. The 2 I beat were stock, the one I lost to had an exhaust because he has some noise. Other than that I am not sure. That 4.6 just doesnt pull like the LS1 up top.
    Yep your right. Mach's compared to our F-bodies have a couple advantages like the fact that they are geared better and they can just downright launch. Our LS1's actually make about 30rwhp more (on average) than they do plus more torque, and the Mach is lighter but by less than 100lbs, so no real significant weight advantage there. The launch is where they can take the cake, but try racing one from a roll.......it's not hard.

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    I am 200 lbs heavier than you so the launch is even MORE crucial to me.......lol

    But I have a more aggressive tranny than the F-body (at least from my research). GTO uses the same internals as the C5 where as the F-body was slightly different, am I correct? I know going at a roll at 70mph in the GTO in 3rd gear is a lot of fun :-)

    Down the road LS1 cars just JUMP!

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    Yes your transmission is identical to the one in the Corvette C5.

    I found this earlier. This was your car when new paired up with the '04 Mach.

    http://www.highperformancepontiac.co...est/index.html

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    Good article. Slower time than that TA but a higher speed....hrm However GTO redline is actually 6,250 so they were short shifting it.

    The tires are where a lot of trouble lies with the GTO. Hence why I have some 275 DR's mounted and balanced on extra wheels....lol They do help a lot, reduce 1/4 times by around 2 tenths without any issue.

    Damn GM for the 245 tires!

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    Also that says the lift was .479. I SWEAR to god that when you get a 2004 LS1 GTO crate engine its a .500 lift, as well I thought it was .500 lift when I was reading on the LS1 evolution.

    Maybe not.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cayenne97 View Post
    Yes your transmission is identical to the one in the Corvette C5.

    I found this earlier. This was your car when new paired up with the '04 Mach.

    http://www.highperformancepontiac.co...est/index.html
    Damn. Good info. Did they do anything like this with the 05-06 Goats?
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    Quote Originally Posted by wooddaniel View Post
    Damn. Good info. Did they do anything like this with the 05-06 Goats?
    Nope. Just Road Tests Reviews.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TLS_Addict View Post
    An 03/04 Mach1 is rated at 305 hp and that thing makes the older Corbra's (prior to the 390hp version Teminators) look slow and they are only a mid 13 second car.

    In 2004 I watch an 04 5-speed GT run a smooth 15.1 @ 92mph with limited wheel spin and getting rubber in 2nd gear every time. I think it depends on what track your on and the altitude as much as anything.
    The '03 Mach has 305 hp and the '04 Mach has 310 hp. The Mach weighs 3,383 lbs. The '96-'98 Cobras have 305 hp and weigh 3,350 lbs. All have solid rear axles. The '99/'01 Cobras have 320 hp, weigh 3,450 lbs., and have IRS. The Mach is just much easier to launch than the IRS Cobras.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cayenne97 View Post
    Nope. Just Road Tests Reviews.
    They tested an 05 GTO against an SRT8 Challenger and it more than held its own. If I recall the 04 they tested against th mach1 was faster than the LS2 GTO which is a complete farse. The LS2 with equal driver/conditions is about .3 seconds faster than the LS1.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TLS_Addict View Post
    They tested an 05 GTO against an SRT8 Challenger and it more than held its own. If I recall the 04 they tested against th mach1 was faster than the LS2 GTO which is a complete farse. The LS2 with equal driver/conditions is about .3 seconds faster than the LS1.
    Yeah most of the LS2's i've seen run stock are in the low 13's. I saw a guy at Infinion go 13.0/109 in a stock 2006, and back it up with several more very low 13-sec passes. So I know for a fact what they are capable of.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cayenne97 View Post
    Yeah most of the LS2's i've seen run stock are in the low 13's. I saw a guy at Infinion go 13.0/109 in a stock 2006, and back it up with several more very low 13-sec passes. So I know for a fact what they are capable of.
    For some reason though most LS1/LS2 GTO drivers botch the launch and shift like its a big rig.....lol Not uncommon for them to hit the 14s.....lol Took me a few weeks to get used to the shifter in my LS1 car.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TLS_Addict View Post
    For some reason though most LS1/LS2 GTO drivers botch the launch and shift like its a big rig.....lol Not uncommon for them to hit the 14s.....lol Took me a few weeks to get used to the shifter in my LS1 car.
    My first run was 13.99. As I got used to the car later in the night though I got down to 13.2 consistently.

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    Hopefully I can get low 13's on my first attempt at the drag. I just hate how long the shifts are....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eric1987 View Post
    15.1 in a GT? LOL! My old prelude could do that with only 200HP and 156TQ.
    my buddy ran a 18 second pass in a 97 z28,ohh it was supercharged to.

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    Wow how did he manage that?

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