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This is a discussion on 350z Kill within the Kill Stories forums, part of the Racing Forums category; Originally Posted by Superluminal High 13s aren't uncommon for a stock S2000, especially the AP2s with the 2.2L. Problem with ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Superluminal View Post
    High 13s aren't uncommon for a stock S2000, especially the AP2s with the 2.2L.

    Problem with these cars is they aren't going to respond as well to modifications as a 5.7L will, and most of them are pretty tuned from the factory, so you won't get huge gains from full bolt ons. So in stock form, they should give a stock LS1 car a run for it's money, however after modifications the LS1 will always come out on top.

    Also, not to discredit F-bodies in any way, but the S2000 and the 350Z are all around better cars than an F-body, in my opinion (outside the dragstrip).
    How is an S2000 or 350Z an all around better car then an F-body is this guy out of his mind!!! I would rather drive my Trans Am accross country then a 350Z anyday! Just in case I have to race some idiot on the highway i'd rather be in a faster car for that matter.......

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    uh you know straight line performance isnt the only thing that makes a car right? fbodies are too old to keep up with the newer cars. both cars would beat our camaros/trans ams around a track.

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    370Z's are lighter, smaller, and have more power (over 300 hp iirc)...

    *Grabs R&T from a couple months ago*

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    Sounds like they are going to be a fair bit quicker, I would be some will hit low 13's with good drivers...R&T sucks lol

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    shit some tweaks to the suspension we can keep up on the track and the f-bodys look WAY better too. also sound better!! but its each his own opinion

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    Well, think I'll go buy a S2000 today. They're really sporty looking.

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    If were talking stock cars, then the S2000 and 370z will outhandle an LS1 with relative ease.

    I have a friend with a relatively stock S2000 and let me tell you that thing handles like a gokart. That badboy can stick.
    But it doesnt accelerate worth crap. Its a tuned 2.0 N/A. My LT1 easily outruns it. Theres noway a stock S2000 will come even close to a stock LS1 in a straight race. And theres no way an LS1 will keep up with the S2000 in handling.

    As for the new 370, thats gonna be much closer. It now has 330 HP and more torque due to the extra displacement of the new 3.7L. It also weighs substantially less than an LS1. In a straight drag race it should be close, with the LS1 winning more often than not though. But the 370z, like the S2000, will outhandle an LS1 anyday of the week stock for stock.

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    i understand our cars are not lightweight, but going off magazines and there are plenty of online specs our cars meaning Camaroz28 M6 weighs about 3450 with about 310 hp 01-02 model hp rating. The new 370Z will have 330hp and probably weigh about 3150-3200 lbs, yes its a 300lbs difference but our cars are very underated from factory and we pull more rwtq as well. Mod for mod the LS1 should come out on top as well, but were comparing a 2009 370Z to a 01-02 CamaroZ28 it should be faster, handle and brake better then our cars and the price tag it will be is still way more then what a Camaroz28 cost when it was new. I still will agree with above the 370Z will be fast and being a V6 ill give it respect for keeping up if not beating most V8's with in a reasnable price range.

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    What about the new Camaro V6. It's supposed to put down 300 hp...

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    i have a few friends with 350zs and g35s and they all suck... i hate everything about them.. too small too slow i hate the sound of the exhaust eww

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    Quote Originally Posted by Speed_kills_WS6 View Post
    What about the new Camaro V6. It's supposed to put down 300 hp...
    Oh, no. the new camaro V6 is supposed to run mid 14s. Sure it has 300hp but its onlu around 27oTq, not to mention it weighs in at about 3800lbs. the new 370 has 330 hp and 275 tq while only weighing in at 3150. The 370z will rape a 2010 V6 camaro in every way imaginable. But a race between the 2010 camaro SS and the 370z, that would be fun. But id put all my money on the camaro SS.

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    With the weight of all these new cars, the added horsepower really don't make them superior to our 4th gens. Of course, they are new, but in the real world they're not going to hand you your ass on the street. I have severly thought bout getting a new SS, but would it be worth going 3x,000 bucks in debt? No money for mods cuz of insurance and car payments, lol...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Superluminal View Post
    High 13s aren't uncommon for a stock S2000, especially the AP2s with the 2.2L.

    Problem with these cars is they aren't going to respond as well to modifications as a 5.7L will, and most of them are pretty tuned from the factory, so you won't get huge gains from full bolt ons. So in stock form, they should give a stock LS1 car a run for it's money, however after modifications the LS1 will always come out on top.

    Also, not to discredit F-bodies in any way, but the S2000 and the 350Z are all around better cars than an F-body, in my opinion (outside the dragstrip).
    Just when you've thought you've heard it all, somebody lowers the bar another notch.

    First off, I've never seen nor read about a stock S2000 breaking into the 13's. Thats extremely uncommon, most run low-mid 14's. Its only got 240HP, and its at 9000RPM - its not a 13 second car, period.

    In stock form an S2000 doesn't give a stock LS1 car a run for its money at all. I've raped "modded" S2000's when I was stock, walked them like they were going backwards, its not even a race.

    As far as your "opinion", I completely disagree. I don't know what you mean by the S2000 and 370Z being "better" cars. F-bodies are much better looking cars, sound much better, are much more durable, are more fun to drive, are cheaper to mod, and can handle just as well, or better, than either of those 2 cars with some relatively simple suspension upgrades. Therefore I don't see the "advantage" of buying a ricer such as those two over an F-body. The only advantage they have is nicer interior materials, and the 370Z's is actually pretty ugly with that new gauge cluster.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wesman View Post
    Just when you've thought you've heard it all, somebody lowers the bar another notch.

    First off, I've never seen nor read about a stock S2000 breaking into the 13's. Thats extremely uncommon, most run low-mid 14's. Its only got 240HP, and its at 9000RPM - its not a 13 second car, period.

    In stock form an S2000 doesn't give a stock LS1 car a run for its money at all. I've raped "modded" S2000's when I was stock, walked them like they were going backwards, its not even a race.

    As far as your "opinion", I completely disagree. I don't know what you mean by the S2000 and 370Z being "better" cars. F-bodies are much better looking cars, sound much better, are much more durable, are more fun to drive, are cheaper to mod, and can handle just as well, or better, than either of those 2 cars with some relatively simple suspension upgrades. Therefore I don't see the "advantage" of buying a ricer such as those two over an F-body. The only advantage they have is nicer interior materials, and the 370Z's is actually pretty ugly with that new gauge cluster.
    +1 Wesman. Better car? HA!

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    Quote Originally Posted by irishpenguin13 View Post
    yeah, even my slow LT1 has done its share of beatings on the 350z's.
    yea i had a 96 lt1 trans am before i got my ls1 and all i had was a k&N filter and i used to beat my buddys 350z everyday on the way home from school.
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    were talking stock for stock though. So yes the ls1 is much faster than an s2000 or 350z. But u cant go and say that the ls1 keeps up with the s2000 in handling. it just plain doesnt. the s2000 is designed as a handling car, and at that it succeeds.

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    My old friend went and bought a S2000 and depending on what year you buy the handling is a bit different, meaning certain years oversteer a bit more and other years tend to understeer. His would have a tendancy to snap oversteer with not much warning. It would grip good and then the rear end would be darty.Mind you he would take his older Nissan spec V full suspension mods meaning coilovers, koni's and so on to the track and he was a very good driver. So even buying an S2000, if your an average driver youll think its an awesome handling car and very few cars can touch it in the twisties but when you come from a background of racing there is alot left on the table.

    As stated above you can easily mod up your Camaro's and T/A's to be excellent handling cars. Im not gonna put down the S2000 because its a great car but i would never buy that or a 350Z over my LS1. In the end when you look at the bigger picture each car lacks something and its something that can be fixed to your preference, wether you need to go faster or handle better as long as you like the car to start with you have a good foundation to work on the things that it lacks from the factory, thats the whole reason for modifying cars.

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    So give them the advantage in the handling department. Who cares! Doesn't mean squat on the street or the strip, which is where most of us spend our time at.

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    Quote Originally Posted by N20LT4 View Post
    So give them the advantage in the handling department. Who cares! Doesn't mean squat on the street or the strip, which is where most of us spend our time at.
    And as was mentioned, you can upgrade an F-body to handle extremely well, even on a tight budget. Its not like its some kind of permanent handicap.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wesman View Post
    And as was mentioned, you can upgrade an F-body to handle extremely well, even on a tight budget. Its not like its some kind of permanent handicap.
    Yes, and as we all know the same can't be said for the 350 and S2000 for straightline acceleration as they don't run too well N/A.

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