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3.8 Firebird VS 01GT

This is a discussion on 3.8 Firebird VS 01GT within the Kill Stories forums, part of the Racing Forums category; Originally Posted by WICKEDLS1 would a ls1 vs. a svt be close of just a kill LS1 vs. 1999-2001 svt ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by WICKEDLS1 View Post
    would a ls1 vs. a svt be close of just a kill
    LS1 vs. 1999-2001 svt is a close race

    LS1 vs 2003-2004 svt is not

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    with us on top or them

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    He blew his motor last week in the school parking lot, ill take some pictures of his car and stuff later, but he was in the parking lot showing off, as usual, and idk what happened but he revved way up, and heard a huge pop, then started to leak stuff hahahahaha

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    Quote Originally Posted by WICKEDLS1 View Post
    with us on top or them
    them. no question.

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    Its cause if that damn supercharger lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by WICKEDLS1 View Post
    Its cause if that damn supercharger lol
    well yeah

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    Quote Originally Posted by justinmc978 View Post
    LS1 vs. 1999-2001 svt is a close race

    LS1 vs 2003-2004 svt is not
    an auto 2:73 geared ls1 may be a close race for an 01 cobra but manual for manual i havent found it very challenging

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    Quote Originally Posted by big hammer View Post
    an auto 2:73 geared ls1 may be a close race for an 01 cobra but manual for manual i havent found it very challenging
    wouldn't know, never ran one

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    Quote Originally Posted by big hammer View Post
    an auto 2:73 geared ls1 may be a close race for an 01 cobra but manual for manual i havent found it very challenging
    100% true. my 2.73 A4 is dead even with 01svt's. my bud's M6 always comes out on top though

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    Quote Originally Posted by Red98Z28 View Post
    his car shouldbe running mid 14 to low 14's, you should be about 2 to 3 seconds behind, your car is heavier
    Ummm WHAT?! A stock auto 3800-II goes high 14'- low 15's loaded.. High to mid 13's stock being stripped and gutted.. N/A stock roller.. I've been door to door with GT's (starting to edge it out) in my Stock Y87 auto, and exhaust, stock lid paper filter.. Slap on an eton 90 on that 3800 and it will slam the doors on a stock-bolton gt..
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    It will be close... You will leave him @ the light/line but he will catch you and pull you to about 1/2 a car or so before you start gaining.. 3800 makes better use of it's low end torque (yeah we have that! lol) than the 4.6.. I'd Launch @ 2000 because you're/ our engines make all that torque by like 2500.. Gears will play a factor too.. If you're a 5spd, shift no lift and you'll surprise him.. Maybe even yourself Shift @ ~ 5100-5200 and you can make use of the limiter between gears..
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    youtube/streetfire vs camaro/firebird vs mustang gt....lol funny stuff

    and i have seen it first hand on weekend street races. GT cant talk smack to anyone in the lot so he calls out poor little old stock v6 with dumped exaust.

    camaro won by a few cars and sounded like crap doing it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by TmaxicanA View Post
    youtube/streetfire vs camaro/firebird vs mustang gt....lol funny stuff

    and i have seen it first hand on weekend street races. GT cant talk smack to anyone in the lot so he calls out poor little old stock v6 with dumped exaust.

    camaro won by a few cars and sounded like crap doing it!
    Yup.. It's that 2 valve drone they have that makes them sound like crap.. They sound better with the exhaust split right and left banks.... There are many stock GT's running around my area.. The questions are almost always, " is that a v8??" The look is priceless when you say, "nah 3800"..
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    GM's v6's sure sound mean at idle..just the higher they rev the worse they sound lol...although i had an 05 monte carlo supercharged SS that sounded great...maybe it was the fact of the S/C drowning out everything else...it was a baest. 14.5 best i could get outta her. then i blew something running too much boost on stock motor against an altima with nitrous.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TmaxicanA View Post
    GM's v6's sure sound mean at idle..just the higher they rev the worse they sound lol...although i had an 05 monte carlo supercharged SS that sounded great...maybe it was the fact of the S/C drowning out everything else...it was a baest. 14.5 best i could get outta her. then i blew something running too much boost on stock motor against an altima with nitrous.
    That's why I love the 4v 6ers (GM only).. They sound like music @ higher rpms.. I like me my 3800's tho but they are dynosaurs compared to 4 valvers from even 20 years ago.. Early SC 3.8's turned out less HP than the little 207ci LQ1 did N/A.. I still say the v6 Camaro's would have been better with the LQ1 than the 3800.. Kinda funny that the 2010 v6 Camaro has a 60* v6 dohc now and the 90* 3800 ohv was scrapped..
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    yeah it always bugged me that the series III only made 240 W/ S/C and 200 W/O S/C

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    Quote Originally Posted by TmaxicanA View Post
    yeah it always bugged me that the series III only made 240 W/ S/C and 200 W/O S/C
    300+ N/A out of a DI 3.6l dohc v6.. No need for an SC from day one.. Later maybe adding a spool or 2, they would be screamers.. 60* like spools more than SC's.. But SC's have been done on them too.. Most of the SC's around are modded stock units and don't like the over 7k an average 60* v6 is capable of (pre 96) all day.. Lot of them fall on their face where the sweet spot would be in N/A form.. = castrated power ban...
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    Quote Originally Posted by AfterYou View Post
    This guy at my school wants to race me at the track, hes got an 01 GT with exhaust, I`m still in my v6 3800 firebird with exhaust and tires, nothing more at the moment, Looking forward to being destroyed, how badly do you think it would be? His is a manual also, But I just want to give myself a reason to go out to the track and so what kind of numbers im running before i bite into the engine and buy mods next year!

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    Main question, If im going to lose, how badly will I lose?
    My guess is that you will be behind by pretty far, even with the GT drivers most likely horrible driving skills. The New Edge GT's are capable of way low 14 second times bone stock. Compared to your low-mid 15 second car, at best (if I'm incorrect about the 3.8 Firebird 1/4 times, please, feel free to enlighten me, I'm just speaking off of memory right now).

    You are way, way down on torque compared to him as well.

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    yeah OP, i'd stick to picking on v6 mustangs and the like, made many a memory winning v6 drag races out in the boonies with my POS 3.8 bird with a broken tranny mount and two weak motor mounts,

    "ready, GO!" "THUD. bwaaaa!..THUD. bwaaaaaaa..THUD.bwaaaaaaaaaaa"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Transamws6 View Post
    My guess is that you will be behind by pretty far, even with the GT drivers most likely horrible driving skills. The New Edge GT's are capable of way low 14 second times bone stock. Compared to your low-mid 15 second car, at best (if I'm incorrect about the 3.8 Firebird 1/4 times, please, feel free to enlighten me, I'm just speaking off of memory right now).

    You are way, way down on torque compared to him as well.
    Really? What kind of torque are GT's putting down? Also the 4.6 is'nt even a full liter larger than the 231..

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