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00 Z28 vs. C5 Coupe vs. C5 Z06

This is a discussion on 00 Z28 vs. C5 Coupe vs. C5 Z06 within the Kill Stories forums, part of the Racing Forums category; Originally Posted by Spaz so my mustangdyno & sae corrected dyno tune print out is lying to me... well shit... ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spaz View Post
    so my mustangdyno & sae corrected dyno tune print out is lying to me... well shit... i hate it when that happens...

    and PS. how many troll accounts do you need???
    No your printout is not lying to you. im saying that a similar car with similar mods on the SAME dyno YOU used will be very close to the same numbers.

    Nice smart remark is that the best you can do? I was just pointing out that dynos are better off as tuning tools.

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    my question is how did you come to the conclusion that i think i make more HP than a similar modded and tuned LS6???

    and no... if i wanted to do better i could easily... trust me...

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    Im sure everyone could. I was asking to turn this into a pissing fest but since you started to feel free to go about it yourself. I was really commenting on where you said a crate ls6 puts down 380 to the wheels. maybe on some dynos because all dynos can be manipulated but on average they are 340-350 rwhp in a c5.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 5abivt View Post
    Im sure everyone could. I was asking to turn this into a pissing fest but since you started to feel free to go about it yourself. I was really commenting on where you said a crate ls6 puts down 380 to the wheels. maybe on some dynos because all dynos can be manipulated but on average they are 340-350 rwhp in a c5.
    aaaaaaaaand if you read further downt he post you'll see where i figured out how i came about that number...

    the previous tune from my cammed ls1)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spaz View Post
    the LS6 stock are putting down right around 380ish untuned...
    That's what I was thinking when I posted first. By the sounds of it you were saying 380 rwhp on a mustang dyno for a stock ls6. I may have mixed up the posts if that's not what you were trying to say. Cammed ls6 different story.

    sorry op for getting off topic ! BTW were you alone when you raced the c5? I bet he blamed his girl for being too fat.. maybe that's why he lost lol !

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    I remember when the Z06 first came out in 2001 and one of the car mags did a test against a 1991 ZR1. At least I think it was a 91....lol Both cars were bone stock and the ZR1 was around 342 and the Z06 was within a few HP. The tq numbers were around 350ish I think for each. With the owners the ZR1 guy I think won but they didnt turn very good times....lol From what I remember it was something around 13 flat to a mid 13 so clearly both drivers were slow for the cars they have. Then if I recall I saw a 2002 Z06 dyno on a site at just under 350hp and just over 350tq. How accurate is left up to someon else. Its just what I saw for BONE STOCK CARS, not modded.

    Oh and a friend of mine who owns a 2002 Z06 also owned a low mileage 1990 ZR1. The Z06 feels snappier out of the hole but the ZR1 felt faster once you hit 2nd gear. The Z06 sounds great but the ZR1 sounded even sweeter, especially with a Corsa exhaust.

    With only 50hp and 30tq difference how can you lose by 6 but stay even with the other? Doesnt seem right with you staying with and passing the C5 coupe but losing by that much to the Z06. Good kill on the coupe, gears and some mods and that LS6 will be in sight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TLS_Addict View Post

    With only 50hp and 30tq difference how can you lose by 6 but stay even with the other? Doesnt seem right with you staying with and passing the C5 coupe but losing by that much to the Z06. Good kill on the coupe, gears and some mods and that LS6 will be in sight.
    the guy said he was stock... i tell people i'm stock with just exhaust... the guy was probably exhaust, intake and a tune... maybe some gears and suspension... the OP isn't tuned and running bat shit rich...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spaz View Post
    the guy said he was stock... i tell people i'm stock with just exhaust... the guy was probably exhaust, intake and a tune... maybe some gears and suspension... the OP isn't tuned and running bat shit rich...
    So you bait people in? lol j/k man

    You are probably right about the Z having some mods. My friends Z06 is bone stock but still souns pretty mean. He wants it faster but he only drives it 1k miles per year and is quite the granny shifter. haha

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spaz View Post
    the LS6 stock are putting down right around 380ish untuned...
    is that the same for a CTS-V with an LS6?
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    Quote Originally Posted by 2001camaroSS View Post
    is that the same for a CTS-V with an LS6?

    i was wrong on my number... i had a previous tune... so i'd guess they put down 340 - 360 dependin on the year or LS6... probaby a little less on an auto...

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    LS6 didnt come auto, you mean a conversion from LS1 to LS6 components?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TLS_Addict View Post
    LS6 didnt come auto, you mean a conversion from LS1 to LS6 components?
    a ls6 crate engine swap

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spaz View Post
    i was wrong on my number... i had a previous tune... so i'd guess they put down 340 - 360 dependin on the year or LS6... probaby a little less on an auto...
    its and 04 and the CTS-V's are all M6s

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2001camaroSS View Post
    its and 04 and the CTS-V's are all M6s
    Well gen I and IIs

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    Quote Originally Posted by TLS_Addict View Post
    I remember when the Z06 first came out in 2001 and one of the car mags did a test against a 1991 ZR1. At least I think it was a 91....lol Both cars were bone stock and the ZR1 was around 342 and the Z06 was within a few HP. The tq numbers were around 350ish I think for each. With the owners the ZR1 guy I think won but they didnt turn very good times....lol From what I remember it was something around 13 flat to a mid 13 so clearly both drivers were slow for the cars they have. Then if I recall I saw a 2002 Z06 dyno on a site at just under 350hp and just over 350tq. How accurate is left up to someon else. Its just what I saw for BONE STOCK CARS, not modded.

    Oh and a friend of mine who owns a 2002 Z06 also owned a low mileage 1990 ZR1. The Z06 feels snappier out of the hole but the ZR1 felt faster once you hit 2nd gear. The Z06 sounds great but the ZR1 sounded even sweeter, especially with a Corsa exhaust.

    With only 50hp and 30tq difference how can you lose by 6 but stay even with the other? Doesnt seem right with you staying with and passing the C5 coupe but losing by that much to the Z06. Good kill on the coupe, gears and some mods and that LS6 will be in sight.

    The guy with the Z was obviously lying to the op about his car being bone stock. Either that or he got a helluva good jump....

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    Quote Originally Posted by shady milkman View Post
    Well gen I and IIs
    thats what i meant my bad

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