00 ss vs 96 or 97 ss
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04-19-2010, 01:21 PM #61
For an LS1?? Sounds about what it should be in my opinion.
I was quoted $1,400 from a local "pick a part" for a complete and running 6.0 litre with a 4L80E behind it with only 40,000 miles on the clock.
To be honest I wouldn't pay much more than the $550 advertised for an LS1 that can't be bored more than .005 to .010 over. If the cylinders have more wear than that it's junk anyway.
04-19-2010, 04:26 PM #62
04-19-2010, 05:24 PM #63
Benchracing sucks. Who cares win or lose or draw. It doesnt matter. Just go have fun and get to a track so you know exactly what you can do with it.
Bad driver with an LS1 loses to a good driver LT1........LS1 is still > than LT1. Oh, and yes I have had both engines in cars along with 6-speeds. My current car is an LT1 and its torque and runs great but it doesnt pull or rev like the LS1. But I like my convertible Corvette (M6) better.
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04-19-2010, 07:10 PM #64
If you can't bore it passed cylinder wear, and sleeving is out of the question then what good is it?? Time to start over.
They can keep these used 70K+ mile LS1's for that kind of money. Either buy the aluminum LS1's new or go cast iron.
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04-19-2010, 07:31 PM #66
Just makes more economical sense. Who in their right mind would pay that much for an LS1 with 70K miles??? Ya at 70K it might still run good, as a buyer you have to be cautious. But honestly for $3k how much usable mileage is actually left in that engine. It might go another 100K, might not. Most have been run hard and put away wet. If it's worn beyond a simple .005 to .010 cleanup you're in a pickle. Most at that mileage and higher can't be cleaned up.
Sleeving is an expensive process on any engine, and it's been shown to be not 100% successfull on LS1's. Just not practical, I would only look at that option for a numbers matching situation on a classic car. Otherwise when that LS1 is used up, toss it in the trash.
Used, they just aren't worth all that much to me, but I guess there are people that can toss money away.
04-19-2010, 07:46 PM #67
Hrm....I swear a few years ago you could get a 2004 GTO LS1 engine through Jim Pace or somewhere for something like $3,400 or so without the oil pan. They use the LS6 intake, LS6 block, LS1 cam......etc You guys know where I am going with this....lol
04-19-2010, 11:06 PM #68
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04-20-2010, 04:05 AM #69
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04-20-2010, 07:26 AM #71
Sounds like a good play to me.
04-20-2010, 08:13 AM #72
It comes with the CTS-V caddy oil pan, and no intake.
Swap your Fbody oil pan on and an LS6 intake and you have a bonified LS6 crate engine, complete with LS6 heads/cam.
Several people here have went that route already and responded back with good results from what I've read.
For the price it just makes sense. Unless you want to build a stroker, or some sort of forced induction motor with forged internals, it's a much better option than paying new prices for used 70,000 mile LS1 engines.
04-20-2010, 03:38 PM #73
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ive raced a 94 lti s speed. i had a 01 ss with slp lid and .410 and it wasnt really a good race ha. your car has .373?
04-21-2010, 08:33 AM #74
That way you have a new block and dont have to worry about one that needs bored and most of these puppies as mentioned only go out like 5 or 10 thousanths.
Did you see the new GT500 doesnt get engine sleeves? Its got a spray in something or other in an alluminum block. Supposed to take off over 100lbs in the front of the car and the coating from what I read is supposed to work better than a cast iron sleeve.
04-21-2010, 10:00 PM #75
As far as im concerned stock for stock the ls1 car is faster. Ive had both now a year apart both with about the same mileable and the Ls1 car i got even being a auto is ALOT faster then my lt1 M6 car. My lt1 car wasnt abused as bad, it was garage kept, it was clean, the ls1 car was neglected for 4 years. The best my lt1 Z-28 could put down with a K&N Nitto555Rs and a exhaust was a 13.8 at 98mph with a 1.9 60' time. Theres more torque on the bottom end and it feels faster, sure. But i lost to alot of stuff in that car and i havent lost to anything except a GT-R in the Trans am(ls1 car). After headers and exhaust im pretty sure i might be able to catch his stock cant drive self.
Lt1 cars nearly stock run a 13.8-13.6 at best BEST, the new v-6 mustangs are about to be running that, ls1 cars with 6 speeds have consistently posted high 12 sec times. Its why the 2004 Cobras exist.
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04-24-2010, 11:55 AM #77
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