What about this set up?
This is a discussion on What about this set up? within the LT1 forums, part of the Vehicle Specific category; Originally Posted by N20LT4 You can expect about 3 tenths/3mph difference on average between the two, though it varies (ofcourse) ...
08-15-2007, 01:28 PM #21
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08-16-2007, 12:15 AM #25
I should expect nothing less from all of those drivetrain mods, which most bolt on cars dont have. I have a stock drivetrain and gears, and have still managed a 13.2@107+ in my bolt on car (at sea level, 6 spd., street tires, stock rear gears). Nonetheless, most street races will just be roll ons, where 99% of bolt on LT1 cars will get beaten, especially at higher speeds. There's always a fluke here and there, but I'm still telling him what the truth will be 99% of the time. As for the SS in your sig... well, that trap would indicate some 30 more horsepower than even some of the healthiest LT1s floating around. Kind of hard to swallow, even assuming a terrific DA.
08-16-2007, 07:32 AM #26
So LT1s dont do that good top end?
08-16-2007, 08:44 AM #27
I'm assuming your not very familiar with the LT1 SS, but most have not had the privelage to either own or drive one. Totally different animal. Beefed up suspension right off the showroom, and a "REAL" ram-air setup that improves top end over a standard Z28 drastically. Look at what other guys are getting in them, and you might rethink your belief. Your E.T. is rather hard for me to swallow. Not saying it can't be done, but in an LT1 M6 with street tires??? Gulp. Trust me 5-0, I have plenty of experience in this - over 10 years - have seen many great drivers (me being one myself), and owned several LT1's, and it does NOT take more than bolt-ons on an LT1 to outrun LS - period. Simply look @ your claimed trap of 107. While some do, most guys with LS1's (and a few here on LS1.com) don't trap that high. Some guys trap as low as 103 in an M6. So 99% is a totally unrealistic # anyways. I've see this example to many times to have the potential of the LT1 doubted. Maybe their are a parade of slow bolt-on LT1's were your @, but in my neck of the woods the bolt-on LT most likely becomes the victor.
If found this link to several road tests for both '96-'97 SS models:
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08-16-2007, 08:54 AM #28
08-16-2007, 10:17 AM #29
The SS' are special, but they're not that special. In actuality, the ram air is a gimmick, and has been proven inneffective. First off, if you know anything about aerodynamics, you'll know that the scoop is in the wrong location. It is way too close to the hood. Secondly, it will never ever create positive manifold pressure, and in fact you wont even see a difference in manifold vacuum until speeds nearing are 200mph or more. Yes I've driven an LT1 SS. Doubt my ET all you want. Just goes to show what a decent track and driver are good for. I'm done with this discussion
08-16-2007, 10:42 AM #30
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+1 ^^^^....the ram air on the SS is pretty innefective...like 5.0THIS said, it is too close to the hood...the only way it would be effective in that position would be if it sits really high off the hood...hence the reason why the funny cars have them sit that high off the hood.
08-16-2007, 11:10 AM #31
Yea I dont know much about the LT1 at all, I have a pretty good knowledge on the LS1 but I hear that they are almost completely different in ways. I have been longing for an LS1 for a few months now but I have come across an 97 trans am with t-tops, it has a stall converter, 3.73 gears, shift kit, intake, cowl hood, y pipe with a cut out, and a tune. So im trying to get familer with it as much as i can before I actually get it. With that set up, is it still able to have good top end?
08-16-2007, 12:47 PM #32
Sounds like a good buy. The stall, 3.73s and shift kit are definitely going to add zest, and intake and cutout are proven upgrades. Top end is nothing to worry about - trust me. Make sure you check over it (the entire car,not just motor) throroughly before you make your purchase.
08-16-2007, 03:26 PM #33
08-16-2007, 03:35 PM #34
Here is the weird thing, it was going to be a local purchase but that guy screwed me over and traded it with this guy in NC for a sting ray, now the guy up in NC might want to sell it.
08-16-2007, 04:36 PM #35
08-16-2007, 05:53 PM #36
Sounds like he is just trying to make some quick money by buying low and selling high.
08-16-2007, 08:04 PM #37
He didnt pay anything for it they did a straight trade, a modded LT1 97 trans am for a stock 79 stingray
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