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    Anyone being a bitch about LT1s has obviously never owned one, or at least one of value. It has every bit of the potential an LS1 does. My old 97 M6 LT1 is still running strong on it's 100% stock bottom end at 182,000. The only real complaint you guys can give about the LT1 is the optispark, which isn't as bad to change as you guys say it is, that also probably comes from a lack of experience with LT1s.

    I miss my LT1 I miss not having factory piston slap I'm not talkin trash though, I love my LS1 too

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    I take serious offense to you punk-ass LS1 a-holes, posting flame in the LT1 section. I have a '97 that runs in the low 12's to high 11's. If you want a balls-to-the-wind fast LT1 car... it's entirely possible. I've handed a lot of
    LS1's their ass with my car. And if any of your idiots take that as a challenge... bring it!!! So to the original poster of this thread... don't listen to any of these idiots. Get want you want and have fun! What's more... LT1 cars are a lot cheaper these days and can be built to surpass just about any LS1.

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    stock for stock the ls1 will beat the lt1 hands down. My lt1 would always loss my my buddys ls1. So i upgraded to ls1 you gotta love the top end pull. I have owned both cars and i would rather built the ls1

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    I loved my 95 LT1 m6 that I had. I beat a 2000 WS6 auto with it from a roll and from a dig. Both were stock except for intake and exhaust. I did fry the plug wires, Opti-spark and fuel pump. It needed a new shocks and a clutch, but what do you expect for 85k miles on stock parts! Not a single serious problem with my hard driving I gave it. I really liked not having the piston slap!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ss~zoso~ss
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    Quote Originally Posted by 5.0THIS
    Nope, not power tripping... Nothing LT1 owners havent heard a million times from LS1 owners....

    So, like I said, you can stop posting this kind of crap in here, or I will give you a vacation.

    If we own an LT1 can we comment?



    I own both.Im on my 3rd LT1 and second LS1. If you plan on modding, Get an LS1.
    If you going to get an Lt1, get a 97. They have less opti problems and tend to run the best. 97's have a redone opti.

    Both cars are reliable. My 95 LT1 had 200K on it and ran like a champ.Never had to remove a valve cover.
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    Quote Originally Posted by z_driver1
    Anyone being a bitch about LT1s has obviously never owned one, or at least one of value. It has every bit of the potential an LS1 does. My old 97 M6 LT1 is still running strong on it's 100% stock bottom end at 182,000. The only real complaint you guys can give about the LT1 is the optispark, which isn't as bad to change as you guys say it is, that also probably comes from a lack of experience with LT1s.

    I miss my LT1 I miss not having factory piston slap I'm not talkin trash though, I love my LS1 too

    It does not have equal potential. I have a cam only LS1 trapping 120 MPH na.

    My LS1 trapped 109 almost stock with only a catback,lid,Centerforce.
    My past cammed LT1 trapped 108 with cam,tune and headers.

    LT1's are still a great car to mod and lots of fun but LS1's can have 530HP with just heads and cam and stock cubes.


    Your not going to find a better sports car fofr the money as an LT1. I am currently getting ready to cam my 97 TA and its still pretty enough to where everyone comments on it.

    Drive both and decide for yourself.You wont regret either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by z_driver1
    nope they were 3.42s, you are right about the 4l60 not the 700r4 though, my mistake
    no,1993 m6 =3:23's.

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    Quote Originally Posted by robb4964
    It does not have equal potential. I have a cam only LS1 trapping 120 MPH na.

    My LS1 trapped 109 almost stock with only a catback,lid,Centerforce.
    My past cammed LT1 trapped 108 with cam,tune and headers.

    LT1's are still a great car to mod and lots of fun but LS1's can have 530HP with just heads and cam and stock cubes.


    Your not going to find a better sports car fofr the money as an LT1. I am currently getting ready to cam my 97 TA and its still pretty enough to where everyone comments on it.

    Drive both and decide for yourself.You wont regret either.
    To say it doesn't have the potential of an LS1 is a sure sign of incompetence. You are saying that an LT1 can never be as fast as an LS1. An LS1 might start out with a better base and react to basic mods better due to that, but with heads/intake on and LT1 you equal the playing field. My 97 M6 Z with a cam would blow an LS1 out of the water and with decked/ported/polished LT4 heads, intake, and the cam it was running high 11s for under 3 grand. To say they don't have equal potentential is as uneducated as saying all stangs suck and are slow. Anything can be built, anything.

    The LS1 starts out with a better base, yes. That makes it cheaper to mod and easier to get better times out of. You pay the premium of starting out with a better base when you buy the car though.

    I have a friend in my hometown with a 93 M6, 3.42s from the factory. Maybe some came with 3.23s I don't know all of the options that year, but I do know he had 3.42s, we even had em out of there when he upgraded.
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    Basically to sum up this post, if you have a smaller budget get the LT1 and if you have a bit bigger budget get the LS1. Both cars rock!

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    Quote Originally Posted by z_driver1
    To say it doesn't have the potential of an LS1 is a sure sign of incompetence. You are saying that an LT1 can never be as fast as an LS1. An LS1 might start out with a better base and react to basic mods better due to that, but with heads/intake on and LT1 you equal the playing field. My 97 M6 Z with a cam would blow an LS1 out of the water and with decked/ported/polished LT4 heads, intake, and the cam it was running high 11s for under 3 grand. To say they don't have equal potentential is as uneducated as saying all stangs suck and are slow. Anything can be built, anything.

    The LS1 starts out with a better base, yes. That makes it cheaper to mod and easier to get better times out of. You pay the premium of starting out with a better base when you buy the car though.

    I have a friend in my hometown with a 93 M6, 3.42s from the factory. Maybe some came with 3.23s I don't know all of the options that year, but I do know he had 3.42s, we even had em out of there when he upgraded.
    Take it how you will. The LS1 is a better platform,period.
    And know, I never said an LT1 couldnt be as fast. Are you to sensitive or what? A heads and cam LT1 would get demolished bye my cam only LS1. I have a friend with a 383 stroker who cant hang with me.

    LS1 has a superior design=better potential. Not knocking LT1's. I own one and have owned MANY so I know what LT1's can do. Im getting ready to cam mine so I know they are worth modding. Im just stating the truth. And btw,this is an educated statement as I have owned and modded both cars and my Stock LS1 was faster then my header,geared.CAI,tuned LT1.

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    Quote Originally Posted by robb4964
    I have a friend with a 383 stroker who cant hang with me.
    Then your friend can't drive for shit...

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    I am with Hot Black Trans am. If you have bigger pockets go for the ls1. If you have a budget get the lt1. I have into my 1994 lt1 race car as much as some people pay for a 1998 stock ls1. It runs 11 second passes and with some nitrous would easily be in the low 10s.

    Your car must be on crack to beat a head/cam lt1 with with a ls1 cam only car.

    I have yet to find someone in this town with a cammed only ls1 that can beat me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by robb4964
    but LS1's can have 530HP with just heads and cam and stock cubes.
    Sure if you get all out stage 3 racing heads and a ridiculously huge cam with so much lope that it's not drivable on the street. But to achieve 530hp with JUST a heads and cam wouldn't make it streetable/ nor possible. Try adding a few more items to that list to reach 530hp.. like headers, underdrive pulley, tuned PCM, exhaust system, bigger TB, larger injectors, & gears. Then you might.... might... reach 530hp. Sorry gotta call BS where I see BS! more like 425 with all that combo.

    Same basic mods as listed above would get an LTI probably in the 325hp range.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kenz28
    It runs 11 second passes and with some nitrous would easily be in the low 10s.
    Your LT1 sounds sweet, whatchya got done to it? I'm currently in the low 12's and with some more practice and better tires, could probably flirt with high 11's.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lt4ever
    Sure if you get all out stage 3 racing heads and a ridiculously huge cam with so much lope that it's not drivable on the street. But to achieve 530hp with JUST a heads and cam wouldn't make it streetable/ nor possible. Try adding a few more items to that list to reach 530hp.. like headers, underdrive pulley, tuned PCM, exhaust system, bigger TB, larger injectors, & gears. Then you might.... might... reach 530hp. Sorry gotta call BS where I see BS! more like 425 with all that combo.

    Same basic mods as listed above would get an LTI probably in the 325hp range.

    1st: You must know NOTHING about LS1's. AFR has a head/cam package that produces 520 HP thrue flowmaster mufflers and has a Medium cam the idles way better then the LT1 hot cam. As a matter of fact its the same cam I have in My LS1. A cam only LS1 that produces 460 to the wheels may have some drivability issue. Im talking about a mild cam and heads making 530 HP.


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    Quote Originally Posted by lt4ever
    Your LT1 sounds sweet, whatchya got done to it? I'm currently in the low 12's and with some more practice and better tires, could probably flirt with high 11's.

    I love my LT1. It is almost stock. It ran a 13.7@102 with the stock 2:73's. It has a CAi,airfoil, Hp3. I have a stall im going to install this weekend. Its my daily driver.

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