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WS6 W/438rwhp???

This is a discussion on WS6 W/438rwhp??? within the Firebird / WS6 forums, part of the Vehicle Specific category; yup stiring up trouble..you're not going to be able to run a radical cam only ls1 without tuning ..period...

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    yup stiring up trouble..you're not going to be able to run a radical cam only ls1 without tuning ..period

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    I was thinking spray as well. Mine is probably close to that when spraying 150 shot.

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    430whp can be done, but he would need tuning. 430whp is on the high end of what cam only ls1s make with a great tune. So im sure he has a tune, but 116mph trap speed is a bit low for a car making 430whp.

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    You guys are hitting the nail on the head, he is trying to start trouble. But my question still remains. How do you run a .624" lift cam in stock LS heads?? Is it possible without being more trouble than it's worth?

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    stock heads doesn't mean stock valvetrain

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    in his case it does.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joey (the hammer) View Post
    in his case it does.
    then 1. he is about to loose his engine or 2. he is about to loose his engine

    ...tell him to come over here and post that bullshit

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    Quote Originally Posted by stang910 View Post
    I just find him hard to believe since I've never seen a stock longblock ls1 f-body get into the 11's and I'm not saying its not happened just I haven't seen it at our track. I've even seen ls1 camaro's with nitrous not be able to get into the 11's at our track. His claims are mostly unbelieveable because on his first post he said he put down 438hp and 1200tq so I called bs on that and he said their dyno was messed up on his run.
    There are cam only ls1s with weaight reduction running 10s. With rear gears, bolt ons and a good cam setup many many many ls1 cars have gone 11s. Hell there are 12.1-12.4 ls1 cars with bolt ons, gears, drag radials and a stall if auto, stock cam/valve train/ heads.
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    Quote Originally Posted by shady milkman View Post
    then 1. he is about to loose his engine or 2. he is about to loose his engine

    ...tell him to come over here and post that bullshit
    I don't want to put that evil on you guys. Call him out and he gets scared

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joey (the hammer) View Post
    in his case it does.
    Those valve springs would have cracked after 10min of driving lol. the pushrods would have bent after he reved out a couple gears.
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    I'll tell him you guys want to talk to him and give him the link to this thread.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joey (the hammer) View Post
    But my question still remains. How do you run a .624" lift cam in stock LS heads?? Is it possible without being more trouble than it's worth?
    Yes.
    There are cams out there in the .650" lift range (on one side, not both...thinking exhaust side) that will fit under the stock heads without flycutting/notching the pistons.
    Newer grinds (aggressive lobes, high ramp rates) allow for more lift.

    The story this guy has come up with sounds a bit fishy....the HP number doesn't, but the torque is VERY rarely higher than the HP with a larger cam only car.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Luos View Post
    Yes.
    There are cams out there in the .650" lift range (on one side, not both...thinking exhaust side) that will fit under the stock heads without flycutting/notching the pistons.
    Newer grinds (aggressive lobes, high ramp rates) allow for more lift.

    The story this guy has come up with sounds a bit fishy....the HP number doesn't, but the torque is VERY rarely higher than the HP with a larger cam only car.
    I thought this too, 438whp/448trq, with 438whp you would most likely see 390-420wtrq.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Luos View Post
    Yes.
    There are cams out there in the .650" lift range (on one side, not both...thinking exhaust side) that will fit under the stock heads without flycutting/notching the pistons.
    Newer grinds (aggressive lobes, high ramp rates) allow for more lift.

    The story this guy has come up with sounds a bit fishy....the HP number doesn't, but the torque is VERY rarely higher than the HP with a larger cam only car.
    Supposedly it is .624" intake

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joey (the hammer) View Post
    Supposedly it is .624" intake
    There are cams with .620+ on both sides. They are power cams at that point and take away from streetability but they do exsist. I always went for and nice street cam with around .600 lift, one you can still make close to 400whp and be very streetable.
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    Thanks for all of the help guys, you all are awesome. Go lay some rubber!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joey (the hammer) View Post
    Thanks for all of the help guys, you all are awesome. Go lay some rubber!
    No problem, i take it he wont be coming over to this post? LOL

    I would go lay some rubber but all i got with me is my AWD auto car. Its hard to burn out lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zinergy View Post
    No problem, i take it he wont be coming over to this post? LOL

    I would go lay some rubber but all i got with me is my AWD auto car. Its hard to burn out lol
    Lol, yeah he's probably a no show.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joey (the hammer) View Post
    Thanks for all of the help guys, you all are awesome. Go lay some rubber!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Luos View Post
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    I feel ya brother, same here.

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