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This is a discussion on ws6 factory shifter question within the Firebird / WS6 forums, part of the Vehicle Specific category; anyone have a problem with them? when i first got the car it was very easy shifting, however when shifting ...

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    ws6 factory shifter question

    anyone have a problem with them? when i first got the car it was very easy shifting, however when shifting hard from 2nd to 3rd it's getting more and more elusive. seems like it jams between 3rd and 5th. and it's getting worse. thing only has 20 000 miles on it. any thoughts?

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    Not the shifter.

    It is the tranny. The 2-3 shift fork is a pain...
    Labor is the expensive part.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Luos View Post
    Not the shifter.

    It is the tranny. The 2-3 shift fork is a pain...
    Labor is the expensive part.
    shit. has this happend to others? i can do the labour. shift fork bending?

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    Quote Originally Posted by big hammer View Post
    shit. has this happend to others? i can do the labour. shift fork bending?
    Most likely.

    Common issue. They aren't the strongest piece in the stock T56.
    Waiting for mine to go.

    Sometimes it gets bad enough to pop out of gear without the handle being touched or the clutch being engaged.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Luos View Post
    Most likely.

    Common issue. They aren't the strongest piece in the stock T56.
    Waiting for mine to go.

    Sometimes it gets bad enough to pop out of gear without the handle being touched or the clutch being engaged.
    shitty beans. is there any upgrade parts offered?

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    Quote Originally Posted by big hammer View Post
    shitty beans. is there any upgrade parts offered?
    Plenty.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Luos View Post
    Plenty.

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    I think the shifter has some to do with it though. I had an 02 WS6 and no issues to start with but once it got about 20K on it it started to pop out of 3rd. That one had the stock Hurst in it. My 01 T/A didn't have any shifting issues, but I put a Pro 5.0 in it as soon as I got it with just under 20K on it and I still don't have any issues with it. Now I'm about 45K on it. Could be a coincidence, but thought I'd give my .02.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hot Black Trans-Am View Post
    I think the shifter has some to do with it though. I had an 02 WS6 and no issues to start with but once it got about 20K on it it started to pop out of 3rd. That one had the stock Hurst in it. My 01 T/A didn't have any shifting issues, but I put a Pro 5.0 in it as soon as I got it with just under 20K on it and I still don't have any issues with it. Now I'm about 45K on it. Could be a coincidence, but thought I'd give my .02.
    how did you like the pro 5.0 compared to the factory hurst?

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    Most people I know notice a bit of a difference.

    Some guys like the Pro 5.0, some prefer the Hurst. Both with a short handle shift VERY well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Luos View Post
    Most people I know notice a bit of a difference.

    Some guys like the Pro 5.0, some prefer the Hurst. Both with a short handle shift VERY well.
    not mine. it used to shift really well but now i have to hunt third. i cant just slam it in. sucks for racing. once it's in it's just fine and shifts to fourth like a champ.

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    That makes little sense though...

    The shifter itself shouldn't go bad.

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    How can the shifter itself go bad?

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    Any of the Factory shifters (Including the Hurst) have a rubber isolator at the base of the stick.
    This is for reducing noise inside the cabin but makes for a sloppy and sometimes uncertain feeling during shifting. My advice is to first try swapping out the stick.
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    Yeah, my 3rd gear clutch fork is bent to shit as well..it pops out once in a while...I'm just dealing with it till I do a complete rebuild this winter

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    Quote Originally Posted by big hammer View Post
    how did you like the pro 5.0 compared to the factory hurst?

    To me the factory Hurst wasn't much better than the standard base factory shifter. I like the Pro 5.0 much better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 9T8W66 View Post
    Any of the Factory shifters (Including the Hurst) have a rubber isolator at the base of the stick.
    This is for reducing noise inside the cabin but makes for a sloppy and sometimes uncertain feeling during shifting. My advice is to first try swapping out the stick.
    ^+2. When I replaced my factory (non-Hurst) shifter, I found the stick was attached to the shifter by only ONE bolt, the other bolt was found laying on the floor pan wedged under the carpet. GM quality! Never ground or missed 3rd gear or did the dreaded 3-2-when-going-to-4th shift after my Pro 5.0 was installed w/ a cut-down solid stick.

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    have the Pro5.0 in mine and just recently drove a buddies car with the Hurst and it felt so sloppy that I felt like I was driving my other buddies Geo Metro ... lol

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    well, i ordered a pro 5.0... either way it'll be an upgrade regardless of the condition of the trans. not like it's alot of money anyway. any installation tips?

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