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This is a discussion on WS6 best year within the Firebird / WS6 forums, part of the Vehicle Specific category; I know do a search. I have been looking through stuff for hours. All good info but I want to ...

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    WS6 best year

    I know do a search. I have been looking through stuff for hours. All good info but I want to hear from everyone. Also I have heard back and forth so would like to know where to find the facts. Do I Save some money and get a 98 or is the 2002 worth the extra bucks. Performance is what matters most they all look great. Sorry for the inpatience I have been out of country for a long time.

    Thanks in advance

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    I just bought my 01 and love it!

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    Hey go to the post above yours explains them, Its titled the difference in f-body years. Personally I like 01' and 02's, they have ls6 intakes. So read it ..Now!

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    2002---best bet

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    02, better block than the 98's and the better intake. The 98 block had bad bay to bay breathing and oiling because of the small rear oil galleries.

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    Good stuff. z28241 I did read the above post just wanted to get a little more detailed on everything before I make another purchase. I probably will do a complete rebuild but I want to have something decent to putt around in while I do the rebuild. Mr. lous 99 bird has got my gears turning.

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    Yeah, but my 99 bird has so much done, it doesn't matter the year anymore.

    It all depends on what you plan on doing to the car.
    Performance wise they are all mostly the same.
    Stock for stock the 01-02 might make a little more power, but it can easily be made up for.
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    Lowered, HID's, tinted.

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    531.1 RWHP 481.3 FT/Pounds all motor.

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    Like Z28241 said the 01s and the 02s have the LS6 intake and the 02s also have a better clutch (the ZO6's I believe) Also, the 98 doesn't have as good of a computer system as the other years do -I hear about a lot of heartache when trying to custom tune the 98s because of that- I would get at least a 99 but best choice would probably be an 02

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    I got a 98 because at the time, it was the cheapest on insurance based on the year car. Well, nothing is stock anymore in my car. New motor, new trans, new rear, new everything. Plus about to add a Turbo and finish it all off with a roll cage. Aiming for over 700rwhp with a front mount Intercooled T76. Think I can make it with 80-20 lbs of boost The 98 was cheaper and when it comes to something to putt around in, get a 98 or 99. You'll be changing everything out like me eventually

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    I GOT a 2000 only 33,000 miles. LOVE IT. Like a brand new car!!!

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    The 02 has a better cam.. 28lb injectors.. the LS6 intake.. as stated.. and POSSIBLY the LS6 block... plus no EGR.. love my 02!
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    98-00 had the slightly larger cam.
    01-02 had the LS6 intake to make up for a touch smaller cam.

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    Thanks for all the good info guys. Now I may be looking into maybe getting a regular T/A not the WS6 (cost issue) I want to start a new post to ask what I would be loosing in doing that. From what I have researched I loose 15 hp and that comes from the WS6 having a different exhaust and the hood intake. Oh and a little suspension difference. Is that it?

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    83, 87, 02 All WS6 T/As

    And the fact that the WS6s were more limited production.... only 1500 Black Autos with T-tops....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Luos View Post
    98-00 had the slightly larger cam.
    01-02 had the LS6 intake to make up for a touch smaller cam.
    good explanation.....99-02 are best though, due to a couple teething problems and a different computer in the '98.
    Last edited by NHRAMAN; 09-11-2006 at 11:36 AM.

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    2001. last year of the thin spokes. first year of the ls6 intake. better m6 transmissions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by third_shift|studios View Post
    2001. last year of the thin spokes. first year of the ls6 intake. better m6 transmissions.
    Pretty sure 2000 was the last year for the thin spokes.
    Correct me if I am wrong though. Would mean I was giving out bad info.

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    Here are the GM specs:

    98 http://media.gm.com/division/canada/...8Firebird.html

    99 http://media.gm.com/division/canada/...9Firebird.html

    00 http://media.gm.com/division/canada/...0Firebird.html

    01 http://media.gm.com/division/canada/...1Firebird.html

    02 http://media.gm.com/division/canada/...2Firebird.html

    I borrowed this from another site:
    Differences: 98,99,00,01,02

    1998

    1. Had differnet casting heads which had perimeter bolts and valve covers.
    2. Ignition coils were mounted to the valve covers one at a time.
    3. The water temp gauge actually works.
    4. 98's do have an oil life monitor, they just don't tell you anything when its time for a change. You can find it in Auto-Tap
    5. WS6s had single outlet exhaust (all others had duals)
    6. Steering wheel controls were completely different part with indentations on the buttons, and were better built
    7. Only year that Purple, Gold, and Green were available
    8. Some very early Trans Ams came with LT1 style headrests
    9. Rear hatch release was poorly designed and often caused problems releasing mechanism
    10. Early model 98 Monsoon stereos didnt have capability to control 12-disc CD changer
    11. 1998-1999 automatic transmission LS1s could be started in 1st gear even with the shifter in 2nd. Starting 2000, if you put the shifter in 2, it would start off in 2, even from a stop.
    12. 1998-1999 LS1 cars had a smaller throttle body cam, which caused the throttle to open to WOT faster than 2000+ cars
    13. 1998 cars had 28 lb fuel injectors from the factory
    14. 1998-2000 cars had a larger cam than the 01-02 cars
    15. 1998-1999 cars had more restrictive exhaust manifolds
    16. 1998-2000 cars had an LS1 intake with EGR
    17. 1998 and some early 1999 cars had blue outside rear view mirrors (TA/Formula only)
    18. 1998 only LS1 blocks had a much smaller cylinder sleeve that only tolerated a .005" hone
    19. Last year F-body to use the old 15.5 gallon steel fuel tank.
    20. Only year LS1 F-body to contain a gascap with a tether long enough to actually hang from the fuel door while open
    21. Only year LS1 F-body to not contain the famous GM black box used in the event of an accident to record up to 5 seconds of pre-crash data
    22. 1998 only cars had a different PCV system with the PCV valve located above the passenger side valve cover
    23. 1998 most cars did not have an idle adjustment screw on the throttle body. Some 98 cars do have the idle throttle stop set screws.
    24. 1998 cars have a completely different PCM from 99+ cars
    25. A production shortage of F-body cams caused the use of a C5 cam to be installed in F-body LS1s for a very short time
    26. 97-98 LS1's used a paper water pump gasket. The only gasket that isn't reuseable
    27. SSs did not ALL go to SLP starting in 98. Y2Y was the RPO code that sent them to SLP for additional options
    28. SS option did not "include" the Synthetic oil package, it was a SLP only Option

    1999

    1. 1999-2000 cars switched to 26 lb fuel injectors
    2. Cylinder heads and valve covers redesigned to have center bolts instead of perimeter bolts. Other than that, the heads were the same.
    3. Redesigned cylinder sleeves that allowed for a small bore, up from .005" in 1998 models.
    4. Midyear model change to a cheaper steering wheel audio control button without finger indentations, and cheaper built
    5. 1999 cars continued the LS1 intake with EGR provisions
    6. 1999 cars continued more restrictive exhaust manifolds and larger cam
    7. Only year that Hugger Orange was available (Camaro only)
    8. 30th Anniversary Trans Am available with special blue and white paint package and blue clear coated WS6 wheels
    9. Switch to larger 16.8 gallon plastic fuel tank to meet new emissions requirements.
    10. Gascap tether was shorter and could no longer be used to hang on the gas door when open.
    11. Company wide change added black boxes to record up to 5 seconds of data before a crash
    12. Rear hatch release was redesigned with stiffer spring that released the hatch better
    13. Water temp gauge was redesigned to work basically as a dummy gauge and only show an overheat condition.
    14. An oil life monitor was added to all LS1s, thus changing the gauge cluster a little to show the oil life reset swtich
    15. 1999-02 cars had a different PCV system with the valve located to the side of the intake manifold
    16. Early production 1999 Trans Ams still had the blue outside mirrors, but a midyear change went to the non-tinted ones
    17. 1999 there was the color "Medium Blue Metallic" which was available on both the Camaros and Firebirds. Only one year of that color

    2000

    1. Redesigned exhaust manifolds for new emissions standard actually flowed better and created a little more HP.
    2. 2000 continued use of LS1 Intake, EGR, smaller cam, and 26 lb fuel injectors
    3. Added rear child seat safety hooks to interior per federal requirements
    4. Very early run of WS6s had "salad shooter" style rims. A production change switched back to standard 5-spoke WS6 rims.
    5. Camaros got redesigned 10-spoke base rims, and SSs came with new 10-spoke rim design
    6. First year of Monterey Maple Metallic paint
    7. Charcoal (grayish) interior was replaced with Ebony (almost black) leather interior
    8. Cloth interior cars got new rainbow colored cloth patterns
    9. Camaros only got the Pontiac steering wheel with optional audio controls
    10. Throttle body cam was increased in size to slow the speed at which the car reaches WOT
    11. Automatic transmission cars were reprogrammed to allow a car to start off in 2nd gear from a stop when the shift lever is put into 2.
    12. The last year a WS6 Formula was offered
    13. Starting 2000 intake lids contained a seperate breather filter
    14. 2000+ Camaros came with body colored mirrors instead of black ones like 98-99

    2001

    1. A small percentage of 2001 and 2002 LS1s actually had LS6 blocks which had a different part number and a darker metal cast
    2. Starting 2001, all LS1s came with an LS6 intake manifold without an EGR system
    3. Advertised HP output was changed from 305 to 310 on base LS1s and from 320 to 325 on WS6s and SSs
    4. 2001-02 cars have a smaller cam from the Vortec truck engines to increase low end torque
    5. 2001-02 cars had 28 lb fuel injectors like the 98 cars (albeit different part numbers)
    6. WS6 cars had a redesigned 5 spoke rim which was more wavy
    7. WS6 cars got less suspension upgrades from a base Trans Am suspension than previous years
    8. Manual transmission cars all came with the Z06 clutch

    2002 - Last year of the F-body

    1. 35th Annivesary edition of the Camaro, and Collectors Edition Trans Am available
    2. 2002 LS1 head gaskets redesigned. The new ones are a pressed metal, as opposed to the graphite ones and are no longer specific to the side of the car theyre installed on
    3. 2002 cars continued with the LS6 intake, 28 lb fuel inectors and smaller truck cam
    4. 2002 continued the use of an LS6 block in some LS1 F-bodies
    5. A factory supported optional 345 HP option could be ordered from SLP
    6. Manual transmission cars continued use of the Z06 clutch
    7. Some 2002 model F-bodies came with a revised rear view mirror that had the map light buttons on the bottom, rather than the front.

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    Thanks again guys. Great stuff!!! Jag I will add that info to my collection.

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    01 is the best bet when considering price and it has everything the 02 does. But if your planning on going nuts and doing everything then just find a high milage 98 with a good body and save on the initial investment.

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