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This is a discussion on whats the rarest? within the Firebird / WS6 forums, part of the Vehicle Specific category; I heard in 98 there was only 3 purple WS6s, but the inverse is one of one. My 2001 has ...

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    I heard in 98 there was only 3 purple WS6s, but the inverse is one of one. My 2001 has never seen rain or snow - How rare is that? Only 5,040 Miles too....
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    The Rarest 4th Gen Firebird is...

    this has to be the rarest 4th Gen Firebird, it was a 2003 Trans Am, the only 2003 Trans Am in existance.

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    "The GM Performance Division 2003 Super Duty 427 TransAm is reminiscent of the 1970-71
    original production Pontiac Firebird TransAm. This vehicle is a modern
    interpretation of the classic, with a white exterior accented with blue
    racing stripes and classic shaker hood. The front and rear spoilers were
    modified to mimic the original muscle car along with front and rear wheel
    aero spats. The interior appointments come complete with all the amenities
    of the original and include a Hurst shifter, perforated heliocone blue
    leather seats and a DNA white perforated leather headliner. The steering
    wheel is also leather wrapped in blue to match. The 427 c.i. powerplant,
    matched with an automatic transmission, supplies 455 horses to the
    285/30/ZR20 inch rear tires. The front wheels are fitted with 265/30/19
    high performance tires. This is the only 2003 Trans Am in existance and
    the last Trans AM to ever be produced"

    What a sick car!! I would love to own this bird!

    click on the picture for a larger version...
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    I've read about that, it's just a converted 2002, it wasn't last off the line, and GM did it for an auto show. It's not an actual 2003 production car. It's one of one because its a custom car that GM just put it's name on. They did a camaro like that too

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    Damn that would have been awesome if that was actually the last one produced, especially in '03.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MIWS62001
    I heard in 98 there was only 3 purple WS6s, but the inverse is one of one. My 2001 has never seen rain or snow - How rare is that? Only 5,040 Miles too....
    They made 12 purple WS6s in 1998. They were all Trans Ams. 10 coupes, 2 ragtops. 6 of those cars had M6 transmissions. I just bought one of them.

    There wasn't any purple WS6 Formula made... but they only made 26 purple Formulas to begin with. I sent off to PHS to verify the numbers on my Formula... I'm guessing it's like 1 of 5 hard top cloth interior BPM Formulas.
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    How rare is a NBM base T/A?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tx_Rice_Hunter View Post
    I thought any 02 f-body hardtop was pretty rare.
    no, with exception of LS1 Trans Ams, which only two were made.

    Quote Originally Posted by MadSeason View Post
    Only if it's a WS6, Firehawk, or SS. Ttops came standard and not many were optioned out for the hardtop.
    being a WS6, Firehawk or SS does NOT constitute t-tops as standard. Camaros and Formulas had t-tops as an option, and with an exception of 2, T/As had them standard.

    Quote Originally Posted by TAvsGN View Post
    If I am thinking right, wasn't there a Hurst T/A?
    yes.

    Quote Originally Posted by my1973form View Post
    For '02 you could not opto out with a Pontiac as I tried and still got T-tops. I think you could get a non-T-topped Camaro SS or Z-28 but not sure.
    true.

    Quote Originally Posted by MIWS62001 View Post
    I heard in 98 there was only 3 purple WS6s, but the inverse is one of one. My 2001 has never seen rain or snow - How rare is that? Only 5,040 Miles too....
    12 not 3.

    Quote Originally Posted by dragonchick View Post
    How rare is a NBM base T/A?
    not rare at all. there are two in my small home town, out of a group of about ten T/As total that reside there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by justinmc978 View Post
    no, with exception of LS1 Trans Ams, which only two were made.



    being a WS6, Firehawk or SS does NOT constitute t-tops as standard. Camaros and Formulas had t-tops as an option, and with an exception of 2, T/As had them standard.



    yes.



    true.



    12 not 3.



    not rare at all. there are two in my small home town, out of a group of about ten T/As total that reside there.
    Oh, ok, I was just wondering. My best friend just bought one and we was wondering if NBM was a rare color. It does have the tan, some call it pewter, and black interior in it. Though, the ones i've seen have the all black (ebony) or in the case of the '98-'00 graphite interior.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hark_Z View Post
    What is a blackbird??
    A Blackbird is not a production car. It's an aftermarket modified TA/Formula made by a Dealership called Carl Black Pontiac.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RED02HAWK View Post
    I agree with the comment that the Firehawks are the rarest thats why i got one. But i didnt know the black bird either. Didnt gmmg make the ZL1 camaros too? And werent they supposed to have 427s in them also?
    The GMMG cars are not production cars to my knowledge.

    I think the big question here is factory packages or aftermarket BS like Blackbirds, GMMG, Mecham.?. I would think that factory packages like Firehawk, T/A GT, WS6, SS, Anniversary cars, Dale Earnhardt Edition SS's and ETC. would be the only ones to count.
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    What about the NHRA edition trans am's?? What made those special. I saw one on base at Ft. Lewis, WA.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Demon_Z28 View Post
    What about the NHRA edition trans am's?? What made those special. I saw one on base at Ft. Lewis, WA.
    A dealer installed sticker kit. Look here: http://www.marshu.com/ws6-car-gm-fir...-2000-2001.php
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    Quote Originally Posted by Packy View Post
    A dealer installed sticker kit.
    it's hilarious because it's true.

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    Quote Originally Posted by justinmc978 View Post
    it's hilarious because it's true.
    To each his own but some of the people who own and drive these so called special models are sometimes the biggest tools that tell you some wild story about how rare their car is but usually it is just a sticker kit or some other bs...

    Some can start reading here: http://www.ws6.com/faq/index.htm

    http://www.marshu.com/ws6-car-gm-fir...-2000-2001.php

    http://www.extreme-z.com/appearance/.../cpaint?page=6
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    im betting rarest is a hardtop, 6 speed , ws6 purple formula .

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    Wow Old thread.

    Rarest F-bodies are the 2 1998 Formula WS6 convertibles.
    Both are Red one auto one manual one black top one white top.
    One was crushed by GM the other found it's way into private hands and last I heard resides in Mass.

    There was also 1 `98 Formula WS6 with the 1LE Pkg built in Sport Gold Metallic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DJ Red Barron View Post
    Actually, no. GM only built one Inverse 30th T/A. It is a vert, not a coupe. Also, it is numbered "1 of 1" on the dash. A guy saw the one and only car of its kind at a show and tried his best to duplicate it using a NBM vert T/A. He did a remarkable job. Some time later at a show, a GM higher-up saw the "clone" and was very impressed with it. At first glance he actually thought it was GMs car. He offered to take the car back to GM and finish making it exact. This made car 2, which they numbered "2 of 1".


    As for the original car, it was used on the show circuit for a while then given away in a contest. In give-away form, the custom top, wheels, brakes & interior were removed & factory assembly line parts put in place because the car had to meet "warranty standards." The lady that won the car was offered all of the original custom parts for it. All she had to do was sign a waiver stating she wouldn't have a factory warranty on the custom parts. She declined. A year+/- later, she decided to sell the car. It was on AutoTrader.com for $2X,XXX. I am still kicking myself in the ass for not buying it when I had the chance. Anyway, someone else did buy it for a fraction of what it's worth. He spent some time and money on it, but now has the car back in its original form with all of the custom one-off stuff.

    So the 1 of 1 Inverse 30th Anniversary T/A is the most rare GM Built 4th gen Firebird IMHO, and possibly the most rare Firebird of any gen or year.



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    The inverse 30th is a 1 of 1 model so that makes it the rarest.

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    I know the NBM Base T/As aren't rare. It's just the '98s specifically we were asking about. I know that they replaced the BPM cars in '98, so I didn't know how many were done that year. I know NBMs are all around...just was curious about the '98.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ramairetransam View Post
    im betting rarest is a hardtop, 6 speed , ws6 purple formula .
    Yeah, 0 of 0, as no such beast was made. At one time it was reported that one of the 12 BPM WS6 coupes was a Formula, but I confirmed that was an error in the data as all 12 are T/As.

    Quote Originally Posted by ThunderChicken
    I know the NBM Base T/As aren't rare. It's just the '98s specifically we were asking about. I know that they replaced the BPM cars in '98, so I didn't know how many were done that year. I know NBMs are all around...just was curious about the '98.
    True, NBM was introduced mid '98 production to replace the BPM, resulting in it being the 2nd rarest WS6 color (20 T/A coupes, 9 T/A 'vert, 2 Formulas). However, there were still 1105 NBM non-WS6 T/A coupes built in '98, making it about the 6th rarest color that year.

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