What's my horse power

**izzhemp** · 11-27-2010, 08:48 PM

I have 1999 Fire bird 150258 Miles on it, it has WS6 ram air hood K&N air filter 165° Thermostat MSD 8MM street fire wires bosch double electrode plugs jet stage 2 chip pace setter headers catco converter 8O series flow master automatic Tranny with B&M shift kit royal purple oil Tranny fluid power steering fluid an radiator additive. And im curious if any one had an idea of my horse power thanks all

**c5z28** · 11-27-2010, 09:13 PM

320ish w/ a tune, ditch the 80 series.

**Blackbird WS6** · 11-27-2010, 10:06 PM

Originally Posted by c5z28

320ish w/ a tune, ditch the 80 series.

think thats pushing it BUT around there....depending how strong the engine is

are you asking wheel hp OR crank hp??

**bluehawk2000** · 11-27-2010, 10:51 PM

Me thinking its a v6 I am wanting to say no more than 250, cause I thought they were rated at like 200hp and 225tq!!!

**Blackbird WS6** · 11-27-2010, 10:53 PM

Originally Posted by bluehawk2000

Me thinking its a v6 I am wanting to say no more than 250, cause I thought they were rated at like 200hp and 225tq!!!

wait what?!?!...v6?!?!....

**c5z28** · 11-27-2010, 10:53 PM

If it's a v-6 then beats me

**Schmalgar** · 11-27-2010, 11:01 PM

Wait for smittro to see the question, he can likely give you an estimate for a v6 with some mods...

**bluehawk2000** · 11-27-2010, 11:08 PM

Originally Posted by Blackbird-WS6

wait what?!?!...v6?!?!....

yea its a regular firebird correct that was my thinking I didnt hear formula after just regular firebird, thats just my process and thinking maybe I missed something cause I have had a few beers, but I used to own a 97 firebird so thats why I knew the specs on the 3800II!!! Correct me if I am wrong cause I may be it happens alot lol

**bluehawk2000** · 11-27-2010, 11:10 PM

And yea smittro is the man when it comes to the v6's even me owning a ls1 I will not talk shit to his face about v6's lol, much love smittro haha I think I said something one time that offended you, but it was nothing personal I dont mind v6's at all myself shit wished I owned one right now driving 130+ miles a day ont he ls1 sucks haha!!

**9T8W66** · 11-28-2010, 05:29 AM

Check his profile guys it's a Base Firebird.

My guess is approx 240-245 at the flywheel.
RWHP maybe closer to 210 but I don't really have a clue as I'm not a 3800 aficionado

**Blackbird WS6** · 11-28-2010, 01:02 PM

i talked with steve and he said about 250 at the crank MAX

**bluehawk2000** · 11-28-2010, 03:00 PM

Originally Posted by Blackbird-WS6

i talked with steve and he said about 250 at the crank MAX

thats wat i was thinkin myself!!!!

**TmaxicanA** · 11-28-2010, 03:55 PM

maybe 220....maybe. flywheel power.

**Y2KPewterSS** · 11-28-2010, 04:26 PM

Lets keep this on topic and free of unhelpful posts.

**Rmaverickz28** · 11-28-2010, 07:59 PM

ditch the royal purple crap: Amsoil is a LOT better hands down!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

**Blackbird WS6** · 11-28-2010, 08:04 PM

Originally Posted by Rmaverickz28

ditch the royal purple crap: Amsoil is a LOT better hands down!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

i agree

**Oddwraith** · 12-01-2010, 06:05 AM

241 bhp/227 bhp

I wonder if you can do the "top swap" (gtp supercharger) and put those numbers up another 30 or 40 horses? I like the v6 cars, as long as people don't rice them out with over the top tacked on scoops and stickers and ultra high spoilers

lol. It represents us ls1 guys to a lot of people out there who don't know the difference between the v8s and v6s.

**Smittro** · 12-01-2010, 02:20 PM

L67-Top swap is/would be doable with some fab work.. Minimum right now you're most likely between 210-250 being the best max number but not likely what you're making

. If you want power make it breath and feed it.. If on a budget, I'd start with heads. Frankly they suck.. Port the exhaust and polish the intake.. L67 cam and springs will add power without the blower.. They hold the intake valve open slightly longer than the stock l36 cam, and the heavier l67 valve springs will increase it's rev capability.. Headers, TUNE, and you should easily see a solid 250 crank N/A.. maybe 220-240 with a stage three chip and supporting mods.. A tunnel ram upper would raise the top end too.. The one we already have just is'nt schemetrical(sp) enough to be fully effective.. imho

Then there's always the after market if you want to really get it movin'..

**Smittro** · 12-01-2010, 02:45 PM

Originally Posted by Smittro

L67-Top swap is/would be doable with some fab work.. Minimum right now you're most likely between 210-250 being the best max number but not likely what you're making

. If you want power make it breath and feed it.. If on a budget, I'd start with heads. Frankly they suck.. Port the exhaust and polish the intake.. L67 cam and springs will add power without the blower.. They hold the intake valve open slightly longer than the stock l36 cam, and the heavier l67 valve springs will increase it's rev capability.. Headers, TUNE, and you should easily see a solid 250 crank N/A.. maybe 220-240 with a stage three chip and supporting mods.. A tunnel ram upper would raise the top end too.. The one we already have just is'nt schemetrical(sp) enough to be fully effective.. imho

Then there's always the after market if you want to really get it movin'..

Basicly what I'm saying is the extra 40-50 crank hp can be had without the eton90.. Doing the top swap is a 40hp bolt on with plenty of work ahead.. I researched this at lengh as I had originally thought about doing the eton90 too.. Even with a 3.4 pulley your not going to see great gains over what can be achieved without the 90.. If you want FI I'd recommend at this point in time to look into setups other than a factory eton.. imho..

**izzhemp** · 12-01-2010, 07:38 PM

I was thinkin around 24O-25O cause it comes stock with 210 If im correct, but im not a budget but everything i've done to it i've gotten good price on parts i know its a V6 so wasn't plannin on doin Alot to it im done with mods though for it im plannin on gettin a 00-02 6 speed WS6 after taxes so i been settin aside money for a Fast LSX intake with fuel rails, Borla headers with true dual Borla S type mufflers and hopefully have enough also for a Zoom D2 disk set clutch to have put on as soon as i purchase the car and ya i know im lookin at bout 3OOO Bux right there just in parts but its worth it

just need to find the car i want for the price im lookin to pay