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This is a discussion on What's Better within the Firebird / WS6 forums, part of the Vehicle Specific category; i'm looking to buy a firebird and i want to buy the best one that there is but what's better? ...

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    Cool What's Better

    i'm looking to buy a firebird and i want to buy the best one that there is but what's better?

    Firebird Trans Am

    Or A Firebird With NHRA Package?

    A Firehawk

    Or A Trans Am WS6

    so what do you think please reply

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    Depends on what you find and what your preference is...like color and manual or automatic. I personally like the FireHawk and I really wish I would of heald out til I found a 2002. I have a 01 WS6, I love it, but I'm the kind of person who loves rarety. A FireHawk is way more rare than a WS6. I'd say seeing a FireHawk on the streets is like seeing a Mustang Saleen on the streets driving around or even a Lambo. It's very rare that you see one unless you know someone that owns one. The only difference between a WS6 and a FireHawk mostly is a few looks, like the hood is different and some FireHawks have an extra ground effect on the front on the bottom and they have like 30 more horsepower than a WS6..to my knowledge but I could be wrong.

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    The List
    1) FireHawk
    2) WS6
    3) Trans Am
    4) Formula

    This is a basic list The Hawks and WS6's are both available as Formula's or Trans Am's, so ypur choice will depend on looks
    WS6 Formula's were only built between `98-`00 600+ total cars
    Formula FireHawks are almost as rare, About 100 built anually from `99-`02
    All have the same engine and make about the same power.

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    if you want rare, only about 1000 nhra editions were made in its 3 year run from 00-02.

    there really isnt a best. if i was to buy a firebird again, it would be a ram air t/a
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    a few bolt ons, 379 rwhp
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    Best is whatever you like best. They all have the same powertrain. I like TA's and WS6's myself. Don't care for Firehawks or NHRA's.

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    I prefer the Trans am front end and upper level spoiler, if I had my pick I would take a Trans am Firehawk but I have a Trans am WS.6 and satisfied with it. Dont care too much for the formula wether it be a WS.6 or Firehawk. just my .02$
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    Are you looking to purchase this vehicle as an investment, or are you looking at it from a pure perfromance viewpoint? What do you mean by "best"?

    Performance...

    1. Firehawk
    2. Formula WS6
    3. Formula/Trans Am WS6
    4. Trans Am

    Collectors Potential

    1. Firehawk
    2. Formula WS6
    3. Trans Am WS6
    4 Trans Am/ Formula

    Bang for your Buck in current market...

    1. Formula WS6
    2. Trans Am/ Formula
    3. Trans Am WS6
    4. Firehawk

    It all depends on what you are looking for....if you are looking for pure performance, than the firehawk or WS6 Formula are the tickets...want a fun car at a decent price, look for a WS6 T/A...lots of them around....looking for an investment...the Firehawks and WS6 Formulas are the most rare, but hard to say if they will ever become collectibles....

    Again, what do you mean by "best"?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Armor View Post
    Are you looking to purchase this vehicle as an investment, or are you looking at it from a pure perfromance viewpoint? What do you mean by "best"?

    Performance...

    1. Firehawk
    2. Formula WS6
    3. Formula/Trans Am WS6
    4. Trans Am




    ARMOR

    there is no performance difference between above models.
    truthfully a stripped down formula would be the quickest of the group.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nhraformula View Post
    there is no performance difference between above models.
    truthfully a stripped down formula would be the quickest of the group.
    put equal drivers between them all...it will break down like I said it would...no performace difference between a Firehawk and a bone stock Formula? ok....lol obviously never rode in both with good drivers....lol

    Armor

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    For NHRAFORMULA'S last Quote. I would argue that one. The Hawks come from SLP with SLP lids (mine has the blackwing lid) and exhausts, so more power!, and since you wrote performance, then I also need to mention the suspension upgrades that SLP offers and installs, be a 1LE or Bilstien. I believe your argument is the weight loss difference between the cars, thus better power to weight ratio, Lets use 01-02's as an example. I dont think the 310 h.p. stripped down formula will outperform an 345 h.p. Firehawk, if you have the same driver, car for car. Thats my .02 cents.

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    Quote Originally Posted by z28241 View Post
    For NHRAFORMULA'S last Quote. I would argue that one. The Hawks come from SLP with SLP lids (mine has the blackwing lid) and exhausts, so more power!, and since you wrote performance, then I also need to mention the suspension upgrades that SLP offers and installs, be a 1LE or Bilstien. I believe your argument is the weight loss difference between the cars, thus better power to weight ratio, Lets use 01-02's as an example. I dont think the 310 h.p. stripped down formula will outperform an 345 h.p. Firehawk, if you have the same driver, car for car. Thats my .02 cents.
    the suspension upgrades really dont mean shit at the track. maybe it will help you for roadracing.
    with just DRs, any f-body can get a dead hook minus expensive suspension upgrades.
    a firehawk will dyno just alittle more than the other firebirds, but once again that means nothing at the strip. 5 more rwhp isnt giving you a tenth.
    using the 345 firehawk rating was a slp marketing ploy and everybody that even has a small knowledge of f-bodys will agree.
    as for weight, it plays a huge difference. every 100 pounds equals a tenth.
    my formula is 3380 pounds. a fully loaded hawk is going to weigh im guessing 200+more pounds.
    btw, my car isnt a stripper either.
    Last edited by nhraformula; 10-28-2006 at 10:25 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Armor View Post
    put equal drivers between them all...it will break down like I said it would...no performace difference between a Firehawk and a bone stock Formula? ok....lol obviously never rode in both with good drivers....lol

    Armor
    it was disputing youre rating a hawk as number one and so on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nhraformula View Post
    it was disputing youre rating a hawk as number one and so on.

    well..overall best performer out of the group, rarest and most collector potential...

    Armor

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    Quote Originally Posted by Armor View Post
    Are you looking to purchase this vehicle as an investment, or are you looking at it from a pure perfromance viewpoint? What do you mean by "best"?

    Performance...

    1. Firehawk
    2. Formula WS6
    3. Formula/Trans Am WS6
    4. Trans Am

    Collectors Potential

    1. Firehawk
    2. Formula WS6
    3. Trans Am WS6
    4 Trans Am/ Formula

    Bang for your Buck in current market...

    1. Formula WS6
    2. Trans Am/ Formula
    3. Trans Am WS6
    4. Firehawk

    It all depends on what you are looking for....if you are looking for pure performance, than the firehawk or WS6 Formula are the tickets...want a fun car at a decent price, look for a WS6 T/A...lots of them around....looking for an investment...the Firehawks and WS6 Formulas are the most rare, but hard to say if they will ever become collectibles....

    Again, what do you mean by "best"?

    ARMOR
    Agreed

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    Quote Originally Posted by z28241 View Post
    For NHRAFORMULA'S last Quote. I would argue that one. The Hawks come from SLP with SLP lids (mine has the blackwing lid) and exhausts, so more power!, and since you wrote performance, then I also need to mention the suspension upgrades that SLP offers and installs, be a 1LE or Bilstien. I believe your argument is the weight loss difference between the cars, thus better power to weight ratio, Lets use 01-02's as an example. I dont think the 310 h.p. stripped down formula will outperform an 345 h.p. Firehawk, if you have the same driver, car for car. Thats my .02 cents.

    What about a '02 Formula Firehawk w/cloth seats?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Armor View Post
    well..overall best performer out of the group, rarest and most collector potential...

    Armor
    if you want to talk rare, theres carl black and the dale earnheart editions.
    they are more rare than firehawks. they also have performance upgrades.

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    Black Bird... power... looks... and rarity... 50 per year... 3 year run... maybe 4 year run... i think just 00, 01, 02 though... 380 hp in a stage 1.... stage 2 has like 425 hp i think (though i think under 10 of them were ever converted to stage 2)... there was and intended like 500 hp stage 3, but dont think any were eve made... withought finding a car that is like 1 of 1.... thats prolly gonna be your best firebird... but they are going for high $30k EASILY...

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    Quote Originally Posted by nhraformula View Post
    there is no performance difference between above models.
    truthfully a stripped down formula would be the quickest of the group.
    This is %100 correct. They all have the same powertrain. The gain from the SLP catback is negligent. If anything the 17' wheels on the Firehawk (I have a set, they're HEAVY) will cancel that out. The stiffer suspension upgrades are the exact opposite of what you want at the track.

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    also the collectors edition 2002 T/A is rare.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nhraformula View Post
    also the collectors edition 2002 T/A is rare.
    Good point. The white 99 anniversary edition is one of my favorites.

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