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VIDEO: My Firehawk (TR 230) vs WS6 (MTI X1)

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    VIDEO: My Firehawk (TR 230) vs WS6 (MTI X1)

    A few races between my Firehawk (TR230 + 4.10's ~360rwhp) and my brothers WS6 (X1 ~430rwhp). I bogged down pretty bad on the last one as you can see:



    And here's a video showing more of my car:


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    Very nice. Is that all you have is cam and gears?

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    wow you have a sweey car, that paint looks awesome.

    so is your the ~360rwhp? and your brothers is the ~430rwhp

    you pulled on him every time good runs, shifting sounded good too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NorthwoodDavid View Post
    wow you have a sweey car, that paint looks awesome.

    so is your the ~360rwhp? and your brothers is the ~430rwhp

    you pulled on him every time good runs, shifting sounded good too.
    Yeah, he has quite a bit more power and I still pull on him. It's kind of weird.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Goldcuffs View Post
    Very nice. Is that all you have is cam and gears?
    Yup, that's pretty much it and open hooker headers.

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    awesome runs man!

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    wow must be the gears man! they make a big difference!

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    nice vid, its wierd how much a diff those gears make

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    Awesome races. Just goes to show you how much of a difference those gears make.

    I remember the thread you made when you were getting the stripes done, looks amazing!

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    Quote Originally Posted by emoFTW View Post
    wow must be the gears man! they make a big difference!
    Yeah, gears make a pretty big difference, but the TR230 has better average power than the X1. Doesn't peak out as high, but I didn't get it for dyno racing.

    What part of Oklahoma are you from?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Puppet_Master View Post
    Yeah, gears make a pretty big difference, but the TR230 has better average power than the X1. Doesn't peak out as high, but I didn't get it for dyno racing.

    What part of Oklahoma are you from?
    What is the part # on that cam? I tried a search for a TR230 but couldn't find anything. I've always had carburated(sp) cars so I'm new to the fuel injected stuff. Did you have to do any computer programing for that cam? Is it ok if I PM you with more questions? I don't want clutter up this thread with a bunch of tech questions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Goldcuffs View Post
    What is the part # on that cam? I tried a search for a TR230 but couldn't find anything. I've always had carburated(sp) cars so I'm new to the fuel injected stuff. Did you have to do any computer programing for that cam? Is it ok if I PM you with more questions? I don't want clutter up this thread with a bunch of tech questions.
    Yeah, just pm me and I'll tell you everything about it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Goldcuffs View Post
    What is the part # on that cam? I tried a search for a TR230 but couldn't find anything. I've always had carburated(sp) cars so I'm new to the fuel injected stuff. Did you have to do any computer programing for that cam? Is it ok if I PM you with more questions? I don't want clutter up this thread with a bunch of tech questions.
    Quote Originally Posted by Puppet_Master View Post
    Yeah, just pm me and I'll tell you everything about it.
    I was gonna ask you the same thing... Other than the air lid and exhaust my car is pretty much stock. Do you think you can forward me your cam info and if you had to do any programming on that? Your car sounds freaking awesome man!

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    Quote Originally Posted by SMOKIN WS6 View Post
    I was gonna ask you the same thing... Other than the air lid and exhaust my car is pretty much stock. Do you think you can forward me your cam info and if you had to do any programming on that? Your car sounds freaking awesome man!
    It's pretty much a must that you need to get it dyno tuned. After I got it tuned, it ran great. It really doesn't drive much different than stock. The only time it'll bog down is if I'm idling and make a quick turn like into a parking lot because it takes power to drive the hydraulics. I drive my car everyday without a problem.

    The cam was designed by Thunder Racing: http://www.thunderracing.com/catalog...22&sid=88#P401. The part number is 99-TR230/224-111

    I chose that cam because it was really popular in the forums, and has been around a long time and I didn't want to be a guinea pig. The cam is great for stock heads. It has a pretty low LSA (lobe separation angle) of 111, which will shift the peak hp down in the RPM range because the intake/exhaust are closer in time.

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    nice racing but your numbers should be in the 400rwhp range with that cam even though its not that big. 360rwhp is very low, ive seen m6's with full bolt ons with out a cam put down 360rwhp i think you dyno was off
    Last edited by therobman; 11-20-2008 at 02:29 PM.

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    That car is hot and very good representation to the F-body.

    Very nice.

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    All I can say is, sick 'Hawk!! Very nice. What are your gears? 4.10?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BIG GUNS View Post
    That car is hot and very good representation to the F-body.

    Very nice.
    Thanks man, I appreciate that. I had the option to put more paint on their like fill in the pontiac and side vents plus adding a blackbird like emblem on the side, but I'm glad I went with the quasi subtle look.

    Quote Originally Posted by Too Fast View Post
    All I can say is, sick 'Hawk!! Very nice. What are your gears? 4.10?
    Yeah, 4.10's. Initially I had Richmond gears installed bought from Summit. But I tore the teeth off of those fairly quick so I switched to GM gears and they haven't given me any problems thus far.

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    Very nice vids, def added to my fav videos under T\A.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Puppet_Master View Post
    Yup, that's pretty much it and open hooker headers.
    Off subject, but what kinda screen you got sitting in the dash?

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