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This is a discussion on The ugly within the Firebird / WS6 forums, part of the Vehicle Specific category; So I've heard lots of great stuff about the most recent F-body cars. Not to mention the LS-1 itself. I ...

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    So I've heard lots of great stuff about the most recent F-body cars. Not to mention the LS-1 itself. I was wondering if I could get some of the negative aspects in owning one of these, besides the increased urge to break the speed limit. I've heard of stuff like loosely fitting body panels, cheap interior, weak rear end, and other things. What about the car annoys you that they didn't do right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Herbal Chicken View Post
    So I've heard lots of great stuff about the most recent F-body cars. Not to mention the LS-1 itself. I was wondering if I could get some of the negative aspects in owning one of these, besides the increased urge to break the speed limit. I've heard of stuff like loosely fitting body panels, cheap interior, weak rear end, and other things. What about the car annoys you that they didn't do right?
    that's over dramaticized. Let me clearify:

    weak rear end: only if you increase HP and add stickie tires will you break the rear end. If you increase HP and use street radials, you will be fine.

    Body panels are fine, the interior is kinda squeeky though when your going 80-90 on moderatly bumpy road; just turn up the volume or drop the window and listen to the exhaust

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    Quote Originally Posted by third_shift|studios View Post
    that's over dramaticized. Let me clearify:

    weak rear end: only if you increase HP and add stickie tires will you break the rear end. If you increase HP and use street radials, you will be fine.

    Body panels are fine, the interior is kinda squeeky though when your going 80-90 on moderatly bumpy road; just turn up the volume or drop the window and listen to the exhaust
    i think i see where youre going, but
    i kinda disagree. if you are pushing enough torque to the rear it wont matter what tires you have. the drivetrain loads before the tires spin.
    but everything else +1!!!!!

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    honestly, the good points FAR out way the bad. Huge power, light body and looks that are timeless. Do you know how many times someone did a double take when i told them "no, it's not a 2004 model, it's a 2000...they stopped making them in 02"

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    Quote Originally Posted by third_shift|studios View Post
    honestly, the good points FAR out way the bad. Huge power, light body and looks that are timeless. Do you know how many times someone did a double take when i told them "no, it's not a 2004 model, it's a 2000...they stopped making them in 02"
    that i definetly give a huge thumbs up!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by secondgearscratch View Post
    i think i see where youre going, but
    i kinda disagree. if you are pushing enough torque to the rear it wont matter what tires you have. the drivetrain loads before the tires spin.
    but everything else +1!!!!!
    that rear end is fine upto 100 extra hp. After that you're toying with fate.

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    My question is is there a way to fix the weak back end then or are we just doomed to break it if we get too much HP?

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