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This is a discussion on Trans Am vs Cobra within the Firebird / WS6 forums, part of the Vehicle Specific category; Originally Posted by 2000T/A Guru You are a liar sir sure, my dsm ran low 13s but WAS it nice ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2000T/A Guru View Post
    You are a liar sir
    sure, my dsm ran low 13s but WAS it nice and new?

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    lol wow .. basically what it boils down to.. is they are both great cars. so the 03-04 cobra will beat a stock T/A, but cost significantly more. so therefore you can get a T/A for cheaper and build it up to beat the cobra at around the same price that you could get the cobra for in the first place. basically.

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    didnt i swat that reasoning down like 4 posts ago? And i what mean when i called you a liar is that you told me you said little mods and just posted a quote where you said NO MODS, but im just fucking with you i know DSMs can be somewhat fast i have had 3.

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    Quote Originally Posted by M-Ten View Post
    lol wow .. basically what it boils down to.. is they are both great cars. so the 03-04 cobra will beat a stock T/A, but cost significantly more. so therefore you can get a T/A for cheaper and build it up to beat the cobra at around the same price that you could get the cobra for in the first place. basically.
    yes, depending upon how much the t/a is. dont let all this numbers slanting fool you, trans ams are overpriced despite everyones claims to know where all the magical deals are. if you really want a deal on a 6 speed ls1, get a camaro.

    i know i will be hung from the nearest tree any minute now...

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    Once again thats untrue, i got mine for 10,700 with 48k miles and there are deals out there, get what you want just look hard first

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2000T/A Guru View Post
    didnt i swat that reasoning down like 4 posts ago? And i what mean when i called you a liar is that you told me you said little mods and just posted a quote where you said NO MODS, but im just fucking with you i know DSMs can be somewhat fast i have had 3.
    i must have really fucked that one up. i type fast. i meant low mods. sorry.

    and for the newbs, no fucking dsm will ever run 13s bone stock, so please dont ask. they are shit boxes, let me tell you first hand.

    im not lying about the time...13.3 @ 104 was the best i could do in the day i went to gateway. then i threw an exhaust valve chunk into the cylinder.....

    quality if i ever saw it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2000T/A Guru View Post
    Once again thats untrue, i got mine for 10,700 with 48k miles and there are deals out there, get what you want just look hard first
    its not fucking untrue dude.

    what youre not understanding is cars like yours and mine are the EXCEPTION.

    trans ams are typically a few thousand more in comparison to their camaro counterpars, given the same options and miles. ask around, debate it if you will, its the way of the world.

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    if by looking hard you mean literally everyday for 2 years...then i suppose i looked hard. the first z was more pricey but not too bad and i got lucky with my current one. drove 4 hours to get it in kansas.

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    I had to go through some bullshit to get this car, the dealership had me drive an hour to sign the papers, then they tell me they sold the car as soon as i get there i go home and they tell the guy didnt want it, so i go back and they tried to give me the car on empty. So i had to have a yelling contest with a guy until he put 1/2 a tank in, Cheap IL dealerships
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    Quote Originally Posted by 2000T/A Guru View Post
    I had to go through some bullshit to bet this car, the dealership had me drive an hour to sign the papers, then they tell me they sold the car as soon as i get there i go home and they tell the guy didnt want it, so i go back and they tried to give me the car on empty. So i had to have a yelling contest with a guy until he put 1/2 a tank in, Cheap IL dealerships
    dude i hear you i went up to chicago to fucking buy an ss, verbal agreement over the phone...this fucker was mint...02 ss 6 speed fully optioned hard top with the (puke) slp altered shit. get halway there. call him, he said sorry i sold it. i said dude, i will kill you if i see you.

    bastards.

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    We should just light IL on fire

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2000T/A Guru View Post
    We should just light IL on fire
    it would solve alot of problems....

    cubs
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    adm making central illinois smell like doggy kibble

    just to name a few....

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    there is this one bridge here in Milwaukee that crosses a river, we call it the stink bridge, on hot days it smells even worse its where one of the brewerys lets out some exhaust, there are vents under the bridge it rises up and its one of the worst smells ever.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2000T/A Guru View Post
    there is this one bridge here in Milwaukke that crosses a river, we call it the stink bridge, on hot days it smells even worse its where one of the brewerys lets out some exhaust, there are vents under the bridge it rises up and its one of the worst smells ever.
    lol sounds like fun

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2000T/A Guru View Post
    there is this one bridge here in Milwaukke that crosses a river, we call it the stink bridge, on hot days it smells even worse its where one of the brewerys lets out some exhaust, there are vents under the bridge it rises up and its one of the worst smells ever.
    the midwest, hot chicks and air that smells like funky vag...

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    Quote Originally Posted by M-Ten View Post
    so therefore you can get a T/A for cheaper and build it up to beat the cobra at around the same price that you could get the cobra for in the first place. basically.
    I paid $1700 for my 98, if I put a little under 2k, on a built tranny with a stall

    ($1300) 3.42 swap,($250) pcm tune,($250) I bet my car will pull a stock one on the street.

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    lol wow .. basically what it boils down to.. is they are both great cars. so the 03-04 cobra will beat a stock T/A, but cost significantly more. so therefore you can get a T/A for cheaper and build it up to beat the cobra at around the same price that you could get the cobra for in the first place. basically.
    You can buy a TA for around $10k to $12k, and make it faster than the Terminator Cobra for less money. As a matter of absolute fact there have been a couple Trans Ams sold on ebay lately for $16k or less that I would bet 6 months pay at the drag strip against any Cobra.
    A friend of mine that is a mechanic did manage to buy a convertible 2001 Cobra for $5k with a blown engine recently. I think he put about $3k into it to repair the engine and get it in shape to sell it. Of course these only put out 320hp, and are easy marks for a stock or better yet a hopped up TA. Even the the Mustang fan sites admit the LS1 is faster.

    http://www.stangbangers.com/01_Cobra...SS_Article.htm

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    Quote Originally Posted by M-Ten View Post
    i know they have similiar 0-60 and quarter mile times, and i like the way the trans am looks much more.. idk if it matters but the cobra makes almost the same power with a whole liter less.. just curious what you guys think.. which is better?

    Im not reading all these posts. You should only ASK people who own a Conra AND had an 11 sec LS1. That would be your best bet. With that said.

    I will sum it up. You want a 10sec car with DD manners like a Corolla? KB Cobra.

    You want a big rawdy cammed 10 sec car? F-body.

    They are both fast and you will enjoy both but if you want a more refined car, Cobra.

    Cobra cost a LITTLE more because they are worth more. Simple. You can also finance it and sell it for the same money years later. You wont loose a dime. The word F-body and resale value do NOT mix. You can find LS1's for 5-10K but I wouldnt be caught dead in it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2000T/A Guru View Post
    The cobra is a good buy for around low 20s id say, if you guys really wanna sit there and say well if i got a Trans am for 15k and 10k into it it would be way faster then the cobra that is true, but i mean you can do that with anything, i paid 3k for my supra put almost 4kinto it and it ran .2 faster than my T/A and i only spent 7k on that whole setup. Now i have put almost what i bought my T/A for and it ran low 11s.
    Didint i just expalin if your gonna use that reason then dont buy a Trans am either, 9700 dollars into my supra includeing the car and it turns low 11s, after this winter i will have about 15,000 into it which you can get a good Trans Am for and it will be a low 10second car, with slicks i bet even 9s with 700 or so rwhp. That 9700 went towards a new slightly built tranny, all new suspension, new motor and turbo setup, computer gauges, rear end and tires. So i had pretty much a brand hew car for 9700 that ran low 11s. Ok so i did break it but like i said i wll put another 5k or so into it making the total 15k and it will be a reliable low 10 car.

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    An f-body for 5k is either gonna have high high miles or be in crappy condition, now if you want to talk about styling i dont think a cobra compares to a Trans Am, i personally think every year made after the early 70s mustangs is ugly, foxbodys wow, they look like escorts.

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