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This is a discussion on TA vs. 350z??? within the Firebird / WS6 forums, part of the Vehicle Specific category; Originally Posted by 2000T/A Guru Somebody mentioned a ls2 in a 350z huge waste of money now a ls1 in ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2000T/A Guru View Post
    Somebody mentioned a ls2 in a 350z huge waste of money now a ls1 in a 96 240sx awesome results i saw a stock ls1 with ls6 intake manifold automatic in 95 240sx run a 12.09 in the quatermile and the motor was stock.

    Do you guys ever notice when your on the freeway 350z always wanna race like they think the can beat me top end lol.
    All the import fanboys say that.

    "V8's take you off the line but they can't hang on the top end yo"

    And then they are all surprised when you go from a highway roll and walk away from them past 100MPH like they are going backwards. Dumbasses.

    And as for swapping an LS2 into a 350Z?? Complete waste of a good motor on shitty car.

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    They really do i once had a guy tell me that since my car makes more torque than HP, he said his 2004 accord v6 v-tec could beat me cause my high end was bad. And since his rpms go higher than mine he could take me top end was his theory. I was so pissed that an accord with just a cold air intake thought he could take me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 2000T/A Guru View Post
    They really do i once had a guy tell me that since my car makes more torque than HP, he said his 2004 accord v6 v-tec could beat me cause my high end was bad. And since his rpms go higher than mine he could take me top end was his theory. I was so pissed that an accord with just a cold air intake thought he could take me.
    Its really sad they way people think these days not only about how fast they think their ricers are but about how slow they think V8s are at top end... I've had soooo many people tell me that they'd get me on the top end... BULL$#!T These cars have some of the best top end power ever... is it because of the old muscle cars or what... I dont know but its sad what this world is coming to.. kids growing up thinking loud fart cans and wings are cool and make there cars go fast

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    Quote Originally Posted by blackTA6585 View Post
    Its really sad they way people think these days not only about how fast they think their ricers are but about how slow they think V8s are at top end... I've had soooo many people tell me that they'd get me on the top end... BULL$#!T These cars have some of the best top end power ever... is it because of the old muscle cars or what... I dont know but its sad what this world is coming to.. kids growing up thinking loud fart cans and wings are cool and make there cars go fast
    Ricers think that because their cars have no low end power or torque and only make what very little power they have in the higher revs, that is must be the opposite for V8's. That we only make power and torque down low, and nothing in the top end. Then they are all surprised when they get their asses handed to them on the highway.

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    Is that why they think like that because it is soo annoying having some little punk in there little 4 banger or v6 telling me they'd get me in the top end

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    Quote Originally Posted by blackTA6585 View Post
    Is that why they think like that because it is soo annoying having some little punk in there little 4 banger or v6 telling me they'd get me in the top end
    lol yep thats pretty much how they think it works. My friend has a 2.0 VW GTI with cam, he thinks he "has me on the top end" too because "V8's can't hang on the highway"

    Its funny when you actually race them though, they think they have a chance, and then you just kick their ass by multiple buslenghts.

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    Well, perhaps they think about 4 valve engines having most of their torque in higher rpmīs than 2 valve engines. But they forget the engine size...

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    Nobody will actually race me they always have some excuse but they keep talking $h!t

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    Quote Originally Posted by Matthias View Post
    Well, perhaps they think about 4 valve engines having most of their torque in higher rpmīs than 2 valve engines. But they forget the engine size...
    Well its true that DOHC 4V engines tend to have better "top end" than OHV 2V engines, but the GM Gen III LS motors are an exception to the general rule. They make great low and mid range power that pushrod motors are know for, but they also have excellent top end. The LS1 heads flow very well, and the combustion chamber and valve angle are optimal for top end power. The Composite intake manifold and shorty style exhaust manifolds also help a lot with that too, so that the motor doesn't ever run out of breath.

    When people say "OHV V8's have no top end", they are thinking of motors like the 305 from the 80's. All torque, no power. They don't realize that the Gen III V8's are completely different motors.

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    +1 lol

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    Yes, thatīs true. I have such a 305 TPI which is great in lower and middle range , but on high range itīs quite ... well...

    But thank you for the explanation!! I could make some quartermiles on the passengerīs seat of several LS1īs and itīs true, they have engery till into the "red section". (How do you call this upper range?)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Matthias View Post
    Yes, thatīs true. I have such a 305 TPI which is great in lower and middle range , but on high range itīs quite ... well...

    But thank you for the explanation!! I could make some quartermiles on the passengerīs seat of several LS1īs and itīs true, they have engery till into the "red section". (How do you call this upper range?)
    The Redline??

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    There's no replacement for displacement...

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    Oh, yes... Thank you! The easiest answer is most often the closest one...

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    just beat one today he was real cocky and sai oo I have a little of this and a little of that done to it. I can tell you what there head lights look like in a rear view mirror

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    I've never raced a 350z but I've beat a G35 pretty bad

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    350z motors eve heavily modified look like shit all of them even the ones with twin turbo kits keep the stock engine covers makes them look horrible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Matthias View Post
    Could you ask someone to make a video of that race? Would be really interesting. Over here in Germany there are the competitions between the BMW M3s and the 350Z which in most cases the BMW M3s win. (Although the Nissans are turbocharged and the BMWs not) I would also guess youīd beat the Nissan.
    Yea i will definatly make sure someone records it.. especially when he tells all his ricer buddies that he could hang with me.. i can just whip out the vid! So if i get drs lid and filter what do u think i will run? i went 13.57 stock on street tires with a 2.12 60'

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    Quote Originally Posted by blackTA6585 View Post
    I've never raced a 350z but I've beat a G35 pretty bad
    I beat a 350z the '04 one (286hp) when I was 330hp stock ls1 TA. They are about 100lbs lighter too. the '06 350z with 300hp at crank are a bit better but still a driver's race stock 350z vs ls1 stock.

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    Quote Originally Posted by djvaly View Post
    I beat a 350z the '04 one (286hp) when I was 330hp stock ls1 TA. They are about 100lbs lighter too. the '06 350z with 300hp at crank are a bit better but still a driver's race stock 350z vs ls1 stock.
    Did you just say its a drivers race stock 350Z vs. stock LS1??



    Its not even close. The LS1 is 100 times the motor the shitty Nissan "VQ" could ever be. There's about a full second difference between an M6 LS1 and an M6 350Z, stock for stock. A full bolt on LS1 vs. a full bolt on 350Z isn't even worth watching. Huge difference there buddy.

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