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    Hi Iím kind of new here. I have a 2002 AT TA WS6. Itís stock but I now want to start upgrading for more power. I was planning on simple stuffs like the SLP lid and k&N filter. I also want to change the exhaust. I was looking at both the Borla cat back and Hooker cat back, still havenít decided which one to go for. My questions are should I be considering headers and an ORY at this time, I donít want the car to be annoyingly loud where the neighbors are complaining. Also should I be getting SFCís. Iím open for any other suggestions, the car is used for basic weekend fun I just want more kick to it.

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    G'day and welcome. Sfcs are one of the first mods you should do. With the exhaust, there are many opinions on what people like. Check out some threads on here about different brands and try youtube to hear how they sound. A good exhaust will help with adding power, you could also look into a stall and gears and a good tune - check out Frost, he's a member on here who does mail order tunes - highly recommended.
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    SLP Lid - Yes, SFC are nice but not needed at near stock powerlevels so save the cash for something else first.
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    Thanks for the info. Should I go for the headers and ORY, or is a cat back system sufficient?

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    my advice is going for the full exhaust, i had pacesetter lt's and loved it...there is a store on ebay called option racing they sell a stainless long tube that gets pretty good reviews on here if your on a budget

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    Cat back is only worth doing if you NEVER intend on upgrading to LT's. If your going to go LT's then go that route right away. Thats just my opinion though, I don't like to re-do things and the gain from the catback is going to be minimal.

    Definatly do the LID. K&N is really a waste unless you are on a budget and want to buy SOMETHING just to mod it.

    Lots of people have a real bad opinon about the K&N. My only complaint is in order to circumvent the oil getting on the MAF you have to follow the instructions. Which require you to let the filter air dry etc and changing your air filter turns into a whole day event. I got tired of that and switched back to Paper.

    SFC and a Strut Tower Brace will really change the feel of the car and help it feel more stable in turns.


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    I would do

    Exhaust - You can go as simple as a cut-out which is very effective,cheap and if you don't like it or it's too much for you,you can just cap it and it will be just like stock again.Long tube headers get excellent results on these cars and as far as getting catalytic converters on your new Y pipe,that depends on your area's emissions laws or if you know of some "friendly" inspection stations.Ceramic or stainless headers (pacesetters are good and won't hit the budget too hard).

    Choices on a catback are huuuuge and very close to eachother in performance.Price,sound,stainless or plain aluminum and style are your main considerations here.You may also hear alot of negative comments about Flowmaster but I still wonder about that because,nobody ever seems to have any evidence of a significant loss of HP.And at least in my opinion Flowmaster sounds really good.Gives you that classic deep muscle car sound. (Flame suit on!!!!)
    True duals is another option but are usually very loud,some go with magnaflow bullet mufflers to tame them down if you go that route.Most popular mufflers to use in a TD set up are dynomax bullets,sweet thunders,Flowmaster 1 chamber race,Borla XR1s...etc..

    SFCs - I would do them because these cars flex alot! I have been in car that had SFCs installed and the difference in the feel of the car was enough to sell me on getting them.Car felt tighter,newer and steering response was much better...

    Lid - Good choice because it does free up the intake a bit and in my opinion cleans up the under hood look alot.

    And a stall - I don't know much about them but I have been in a car with one.Nice.Definately boosts the fun factor on an A4 (auto).

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    Have fun and good luck on your choices!

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    Here is what I have done so far to my 98 WS6: Magnaflow, pacesetter longtubes with pacesetter ORY, LS6 intake (you already have this), smooth bellow, SLP lid and K&N filter. The longtubes sound great and are not "too" loud as you stated that you were a bit worried about.

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    That for the info guys. I'll probably just do the cat back. I would need a catted y for emissions, so I don't know if it makes sense to do the headers also.

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    Quote Originally Posted by theaction View Post
    That for the info guys. I'll probably just do the cat back. I would need a catted y for emissions, so I don't know if it makes sense to do the headers also.
    you can do long tubes and still keep the cats, the cats are in the y-pipe, where in the island are you? im in nassau and if u want to do no cats you can.....i dont got em

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    Most searches will help with alot of questions, I found 2 for you that are very helpful.

    Read this one first.

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    Mods on our '02 WS.6 went in this order: SFC's, catback, 12 bolt, LCA's, panhard, torque arm, drive shaft, headers, catted Y, mail order tune from Frost...

    The SFC's and catback are both good to start the process.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gnomee View Post
    Cat back is only worth doing if you NEVER intend on upgrading to LT's. If your going to go LT's then go that route right away. Thats just my opinion though, I don't like to re-do things and the gain from the catback is going to be minimal.

    Definatly do the LID. K&N is really a waste unless you are on a budget and want to buy SOMETHING just to mod it.

    Lots of people have a real bad opinon about the K&N. My only complaint is in order to circumvent the oil getting on the MAF you have to follow the instructions. Which require you to let the filter air dry etc and changing your air filter turns into a whole day event. I got tired of that and switched back to Paper.

    SFC and a Strut Tower Brace will really change the feel of the car and help it feel more stable in turns.
    Not a power adder, but don't for get the window fix. It will save you window motors...
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    Quote Originally Posted by SMWS6TA View Post
    Not a power adder, but don't for get the window fix. It will save you window motors...
    +1. Power additions and money savers are always good to know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by basballny2 View Post
    you can do long tubes and still keep the cats, the cats are in the y-pipe, where in the island are you? im in nassau and if u want to do no cats you can.....i dont got em
    I'm in Nassau also.

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    I'm in Nassau also.
    where at, im in williston park

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    Quote Originally Posted by basballny2 View Post
    where at, im in williston park
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    Thanks everyone, I've been doing alot of reading here and there is so much information! Thanks for pointing me in the right directions.

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    I started with a tune up fresh NGK's with MSD wires. While doing that I swapped the intake with a used LS6 off an 02 TA, P&P throttle body, and Volant Intake, ASP pulley set, 220 amp alt, optima red top and just welded a flowmaster into the stock location.

    I wanted a ram air hood for better flow to the volant, so I got a aftermarket WS6 style for $250 and cut out all the crap behind the grills so the air feeds directly to the twin filters.
    Next round I did the LT's, ORY, and a SLP Power Flo catback( I liked the sound). Had the car tuned. Motor and had the A4 retuned to shift faster and run to 6100 rpm.
    Then had 3.73's installed with a rebuild kit since I chewed the factory 3.23's up.

    last I did the KYB AGX's, UMI LCA's and panhard with new style BMR springs and a UMI Strut bar, and last was Spohn sway bars.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RyanJM View Post
    1998 TA
    I started with a tune up fresh NGK's with MSD wires. While doing that I swapped the intake with a used LS6 off an 02 TA, P&P throttle body, and Volant Intake, ASP pulley set, 220 amp alt, optima red top and just welded a flowmaster into the stock location.

    I wanted a ram air hood for better flow to the volant, so I got a aftermarket WS6 style for $250 and cut out all the crap behind the grills so the air feeds directly to the twin filters.
    Next round I did the LT's, ORY, and a SLP Power Flo catback( I liked the sound). Had the car tuned. Motor and had the A4 retuned to shift faster and run to 6100 rpm.
    Then had 3.73's installed with a rebuild kit since I chewed the factory 3.23's up.

    last I did the KYB AGX's, UMI LCA's and panhard with new style BMR springs and a UMI Strut bar, and last was Spohn sway bars.

    How do you like the volant intake?

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