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Next Mod: Lowered or Cammed?

This is a discussion on Next Mod: Lowered or Cammed? within the Firebird / WS6 forums, part of the Vehicle Specific category; I'm trying to decide which mod I should do next. If i lower it, i'll probably go with the Koni/Strano ...

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    Next Mod: Lowered or Cammed?

    I'm trying to decide which mod I should do next. If i lower it, i'll probably go with the Koni/Strano combo cuz i've heard its awesome. are there any other parts i would need other than just the struts and springs? I've heard it will cost around $1k given that i install it myself.
    My other option is to get a cam and i know that i will need a new timing chain, springs and retainers as well. Without the cost of the tune, i should be able to get all the parts and have them installed for about $1500 right?

    I would expect to get around 370-380 rwhp with the cam and i know i'd enjoy that, but a better handling car with a better stance would be great too (and a little cheaper). what do you guys recommend?

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    IMO, these cars handle great as is, unless your going to AutoX it.

    If it were me, I'd go with a cam.

    Just my .02 though, I can still see the benefit of going with the suspension too.

    Depends on where you want to be faster....in a straight line, or around curves?

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    Definitely cam.

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    ...and I also think they are fine on stock suspension. I've gone fast in both straight lines and corners in mine. Unless you want to go fast on tight corners then I would worry about suspension.

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    Guess I'll be the oddball and say once you go Strano's and Koni's you'll wonder why you didn't do it sooner. I have Sam's Springs Swaybars and Koni's, and the difference over Stock is Amazing
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    Quote Originally Posted by 9T8W66 View Post
    Guess I'll be the oddball and say once you go Strano's and Koni's you'll wonder why you didn't do it sooner. I have Sam's Springs Swaybars and Koni's, and the difference over Stock is Amazing
    I know what you mean man. I went for a ride in my buddy's 01 prelude that's turbo'd and got some suspension goodies too. it was such a thrill goin through the twisties in that thing cuz it handled like a mofo! but... I know I would love a 50 rwhp gain from a cam, but i'd also probably want to get the ls6 intake and a p&P TB which adds another couple hundred bucks. So it looks like a cam would be around $2K for me if i want to do it right (and still keeping stock heads )

    I really don't like how these cars handle stock... i mean it's OK, but it's not as good as most imports. if only i could afford BOTH!

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    I hope it's OK to throw in my opinion. I would have to say suspension. I have a 96 3000gt vr4. for those of you who don't know the suspension on them are set for awd and 4 wheel steering. The handling on that car is so much tighter and so much more fun to whip thru the twisties(I know: apples and oranges). My T/A is great and by far my favorite ride but my first mods will definetly have to be some suspension tweaks. The T/A is quick to react to steering wheel input but you can definetly feel the stock suspension working overtime. Just my two cents!

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    Quote Originally Posted by 9T8W66 View Post
    Guess I'll be the oddball and say once you go Strano's and Koni's you'll wonder why you didn't do it sooner. I have Sam's Springs Swaybars and Koni's, and the difference over Stock is Amazing
    I agree with this. I have the same setup, it was pretty much the first thing I've done. And well worth it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 9T8W66 View Post
    Guess I'll be the oddball and say once you go Strano's and Koni's you'll wonder why you didn't do it sooner. I have Sam's Springs Swaybars and Koni's, and the difference over Stock is Amazing
    did u do the sways at the same time as the springs/konis???? i have the springs/koni's and a umi adj PHR but i havnt done sams sways yet......im curious how big of a diff the sways will give me??? im certain i can click my shocks down one notch softer for a more comfy ride once i do the sways
    ..lemme hear your impressions??

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    what are your mods now?

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    Quote Originally Posted by GottaHaveLS1 View Post
    I know what you mean man. I went for a ride in my buddy's 01 prelude that's turbo'd and got some suspension goodies too. it was such a thrill goin through the twisties in that thing cuz it handled like a mofo! but... I know I would love a 50 rwhp gain from a cam, but i'd also probably want to get the ls6 intake and a p&P TB which adds another couple hundred bucks. So it looks like a cam would be around $2K for me if i want to do it right (and still keeping stock heads )

    I really don't like how these cars handle stock... i mean it's OK, but it's not as good as most imports. if only i could afford BOTH!
    Don't waste your money on imports when you could use the money to make your car handle better than any of those cars can, and still go fast as hell.

    You can make your car handle like its on rails if you just do some upgrades. The front suspension of 4th gens is SLA (Short Long Arm) and it well regarded as on of the best, if not the best, front end suspension setup in the industry.

    Namely you want to upgrade to:

    Performance Shocks/Struts (Konis, Bilsteins, ect)
    Strut Tower Bar
    Lowering Springs
    Tubular or Boxed Trailing Arms
    Tubular Panhard rod
    Tubular control arms
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    Larger Sway Bars
    18" Wheels w/ performance tires

    That will have your car in very good shape handling wise.

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    i disagree with 18'' wheels

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    Quote Originally Posted by basballny2 View Post
    i disagree with 18'' wheels
    Whys that??

    You have more tire on a larger wheel. The only downside is if they weigh more, you'll have less unsprung weight, but modern aluminum wheels are pretty light to begin with. Doubt you'd notice much difference between a 17" and 18" wheel weight wise.

    Look at any new performance car on the market, 18" is pretty much the minimum size these days.

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    275/40/17s sidewalls flex very litttle as it is........im willing to bet u only lose ride quality with 18s and not gain any handling ..just my 2 cents

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    *************thing is if you lower it you will also need LCA relocation brackets... and if you're doing that you might as well get adjustable LCA's... then you are also going to want to have your rear recentered and when that happens you're going to want a adjustable panhard rod...************

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    do it right and get everything you need to build your suspension first, then start adding HP.

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