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This is a discussion on Manual Vs. Auto Part 2 within the Firebird / WS6 forums, part of the Vehicle Specific category; arright guys sense this is in much debate....Lets get a poll goin. (whoever knows how)...

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    Manual Vs. Auto Part 2

    arright guys sense this is in much debate....Lets get a poll goin. (whoever knows how)

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    its simple, the stalled ls1 cant lose.
    i have yet to lose to an ls1 six speed, even ones that make more power than me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nhraformula View Post
    its simple, the stalled ls1 cant lose.
    i have yet to lose to an ls1 six speed, even ones that make more power than me.
    Wanna race?


    I love my 6-speed.
    But if I raced any more than I do...I would get a nice built auto.

    The debate is old. Drive what you want to drive.
    If you want to get better ET's....go auto. If you want to row your own boat...get the M6.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Luos View Post
    Wanna race?


    I love my 6-speed.
    But if I raced any more than I do...I would get a nice built auto.

    The debate is old. Drive what you want to drive.
    If you want to get better ET's....go auto. If you want to row your own boat...get the M6.
    sure, lets compare times

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    You running with DA's up around 7200??

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Luos View Post
    You running with DA's up around 7200??
    you mean 680 right

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    Quote Originally Posted by nhraformula View Post
    its simple, the stalled ls1 cant lose.
    i have yet to lose to an ls1 six speed, even ones that make more power than me.
    ur kidding right?? Iv seen an expert driver w/ 4.10s blow the doors off an A4. Stalled or not

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    Here is the issue though...

    How many of us are 'expert' drivers??

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Luos View Post
    Here is the issue though...

    How many of us are 'expert' drivers??
    I guess... but then again putting a stall in a car and gears in another w/ a driver who cant drive is kinda cheap. Its kinda cheating because the stall does all the work for you. Maybe im wrong but the statement "a stalled auto cant lose" is false

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    Same flywheel power for both cars....the stalled auto will win 99% of the time if the suspension/tires are basicly the same.
    At the track.

    Roll race is different.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rajiv1998 View Post
    ur kidding right?? Iv seen an expert driver w/ 4.10s blow the doors off an A4. Stalled or not
    no im not kidding.
    on avarage i can do "60 foot times in the upper 1.60s. thats where i bury M6s, and if they have more alot power, maybe they will catch up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Luos View Post
    Same flywheel power for both cars....the stalled auto will win 99% of the time if the suspension/tires are basicly the same.
    At the track.

    Roll race is different.
    the higher the speed, the more the M6 has going for it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nhraformula View Post
    no im not kidding.
    on avarage i can do "60 foot times in the upper 1.60s. thats where i bury M6s, and if they have more alot power, maybe they will catch up.
    Ok just because you beat a few doesnt mean a stalled a4 is unbeatable. Im sure there are a few guys on this site with 4.10s thatll destroy you from a dig

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    Quote Originally Posted by rajiv1998 View Post
    Ok just because you beat a few doesnt mean a stalled a4 is unbeatable. Im sure there are a few guys on this site with 4.10s thatll destroy you from a dig
    fyi, 410s will not level the playing feild when it comes to a stall.
    an ls1 with 4.10s will lose about .4 tenths of e.t at best.
    an ls1 with a small stall like mine (3000 rpm) will lose .6 tenths of e.t.
    there are stalls that will and have drop 1 second of e.t.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rajiv1998 View Post
    I guess... but then again putting a stall in a car and gears in another w/ a driver who cant drive is kinda cheap. Its kinda cheating because the stall does all the work for you. Maybe im wrong but the statement "a stalled auto cant lose" is false
    then if a stall is cheating, so is any other mod you do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nhraformula View Post
    then if a stall is cheating, so is any other mod you do.
    I have yet to see another mod other than nitrous (which will eventuall run out) wake a car yp like a stall does.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rajiv1998 View Post
    I have yet to see another mod other than nitrous (which will eventuall run out) wake a car yp like a stall does.
    hows that cheating?
    a cam wakes up a car rather well also.

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    There is no such thing as cheating to get a better ET.

    Some people just mod differently.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nhraformula View Post
    hows that cheating?
    a cam wakes up a car rather well also.
    yeah thats JUST the cam. How bout all the other stuff u gotta buy with it. Not to mention a good dyno tune thallt set u back another $500

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