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This is a discussion on low numbers? within the Firebird / WS6 forums, part of the Vehicle Specific category; i recently put my car on the dyno and was a little disapointed with the numbers. i have a 2000 ...

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    i recently put my car on the dyno and was a little disapointed with the numbers. i have a 2000 T/A A4 with 111xxx miles on it with pacessetter LT's, ORY, Borla catback, ls6 intake, ported TB, SLP lid, K&N filter, and got a custom tune and ended up with 323rwhp and 331ft-lbs. are these numbers low or was i just expecting to much?

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    I would say you are right on with those mods.

    I have about the same mods as you, but I am a M6 and I put down 330/342 on a Mustang Dyno. I lost a little being I have a Moser 9".

    Run it at the track and see what times you are running. Don't get too caught up in the HP/TQ numbers.

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    those do seem low for those mods...what kind of dyno was it? mustang dyno? dynojet? perhaps the tune isnt correct...maybe consider getting re-tuned....

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    Quote Originally Posted by 35th-ANV-SS View Post
    I would say you are right on with those mods.

    I have about the same mods as you, but I am a M6 and I put down 330/342 on a Mustang Dyno. I lost a little being I have a Moser 9".

    Run it at the track and see what times you are running. Don't get too caught up in the HP/TQ numbers.
    i do agree with the track statement, however, those dyno numbers are pretty close to my stock 2000 formula's numbers.

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    it was a dynojet. i was thinking the numbers would be alright if it was just the parts, but i was expecting more with the tune.

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    Just ask the dyno shop what they typically see a stock ls1 run at on their machine.

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    He is basically a stock 01/02 LS1 with a lid, exhaust and ported TB. I don't see why everyone thinks his numbers should be higher personally. Plus, he is an A4, which will read lower than a M6.

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    That sounds about right with a A4. Don't worry, in a race you'd win up against an M6 with higher #'s.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vertiviper View Post
    That sounds about right with a A4. Don't worry, in a race you'd win up against an M6 with higher #'s.
    How do you figure that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vertiviper View Post
    That sounds about right with a A4. Don't worry, in a race you'd win up against an M6 with higher #'s.

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    I failed to see any track numbers or numbers of relevance. Put a stall in, go run some 12s and faster ETs than cars with higher HP numbers.

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    alright well im glad the numbers look alright, i plan on taking it to the track either this weekend or next depending on the weather. i planned on getting a stall sometime soon, iv been trying to figure out what one would work best with my mods and being my daily driver? thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by 35th-ANV-SS View Post
    Run it at the track and see what times you are running. Don't get too caught up in the HP/TQ numbers.
    Truest statement in this thread.
    Dyno numbers don't mean anything, Track tmes and Trap Speed are always a better indicator of real world Horsepower.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Al Hazz View Post
    i recently put my car on the dyno and was a little disapointed with the numbers. i have a 2000 T/A A4 with 111xxx miles on it with pacessetter LT's, ORY, Borla catback, ls6 intake, ported TB, SLP lid, K&N filter, and got a custom tune and ended up with 323rwhp and 331ft-lbs. are these numbers low or was i just expecting to much?
    if you were an m6 those would be low. a4 is spot on with those numbers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Al Hazz View Post
    alright well im glad the numbers look alright, i plan on taking it to the track either this weekend or next depending on the weather. i planned on getting a stall sometime soon, iv been trying to figure out what one would work best with my mods and being my daily driver? thanks
    3500 range for a stall.

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    Those nnumber sound about right my car was on a dynojet and had a crap dynotune(waste of money) and only hit 339 hp don't remember tq. I know now that we retuned it, like driving another car. Haven't got to the track yet since I need to pickup a hemet. I kow it should be ok even without the stall because after the retune even from a 50 roll my friends M6 with similar mods doesn't pull on me anymore till after 120 and his car is in the 12's. I probably have more hp with the new tune since we leaned it and raised the timing, and for better tyrack times I swaped in some 3.73's and did a retune on the tranny so it shifts at 6100k. Even with no stall the car winds up fast I can't wait for the cam annd 3600stall.
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    <--H/C. gears and tons other mods. i only put down 388/368 12.16 @119. forget hp numbers..unless you want a dyno queen or some street racer car that starts a race at 50+MPH

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    Quote Originally Posted by TmaxicanA View Post
    <--H/C. gears and tons other mods. i only put down 388/368 12.16 @119. forget hp numbers..unless you want a dyno queen or some street racer car that starts a race at 50+MPH
    What kind of dyno are those from, my friends hp #s are 386 with just a cam but his car is setup for nitrous and I knowhis car runs mid to high 11's not sure what it's run without it, I think he said low 12's but not sure the exact time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Y2KPewterSS View Post
    3500 range for a stall.
    i had a 3500 stall in my car n i liked it alot, came along with a stage 2 4l60e trans from performabuilt... and also before my cam was installed my car dyno'd at 317 hp and tq was right around that, that was with LT pacesetters, ORY, slp catback and lid, so ur numbers arent bad. like they said its all about what you run at the track

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