Results 1 to 20 of 20

Head light issues...

This is a discussion on Head light issues... within the Firebird / WS6 forums, part of the Vehicle Specific category; I was replacing my turn signal flasher in my 99 T/A, and had to move a bundle of wires to ...

  1. #1
    Worthless Lump of Flesh Ptkirk's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2007
    Location
    Dayton
    Age
    36
    Posts
    15
    99 T/A

    Angry Head light issues...

    I was replacing my turn signal flasher in my 99 T/A, and had to move a bundle of wires to get to it. As I was putting the bundle back into it's metal harness, it scraped and grounded and caused a short. Minor amount of smoke from under the dash to the left of the steering column. And now my head lights will not turn on or raise. Prior to this no problems or grinding. The turn signals and fog lights still work.

    Tried changing out the head light switch and dimmer with no change.

    Pulled all my fuses and checked them and none were blown.

    Observed the DRL Module from behind the radio opened it up and everything looked fine.

    Pulled all the under dash panels and laid on my back with a flash light to try and figure out were the smoke came from. I couldn't find any smoke damage anywhere.

    I also took apart the wiring harness junction and looked it over and saw no smoke residue.

    Any ideas on where to look or what to look at?

    Either way will always disconnect the neg. battery terminal from now on. This sucks.

  2. #2
    Member
    Join Date
    Feb 2008
    Location
    york pa
    Posts
    125

    white
    96 ws6

    Just a shot in the dark but do u have a spare headlight to try maybe it blew the bulbs. But why they don't come up, no idea. I'd say get the skimatics and but a voltage meter at different spots and see where ur losing power and backtrack

  3. #3
    Impounded
    Join Date
    Oct 2007
    Location
    Beaver Dam KY
    Posts
    7,746

    79 T/A -91 Firebird
    1998 Trans Am -Oynx Black

    Relay or the module(next to boxes of wiring under hood, two giant plugs) or burnt wiring

  4. #4
    Worthless Lump of Flesh Ptkirk's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2007
    Location
    Dayton
    Age
    36
    Posts
    15
    99 T/A

    From what I have looked at I have not been able to find any burnt wiring (underdash, behind radio, under hood) I have pulled the head light brain and looked it over and plugged it back in after, closed the hood and locked the car and the head lights winked at me without the lights coming on.

    I tried to repeat it:
    unlocked/locked the car - nothing
    Open/close & lock - nothing
    I tried each a couple times without getting the winking again.

    I'll get my volt meter out and get under the dash with it. Any other ideas?

  5. #5
    Member raysz28's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2005
    Location
    Central Ohio
    Posts
    180

    Ticket Red
    M6 1998 Z-28

    Hey J,
    Just curious, do the turn signals work now? lol
    Let me know if you need help digging into it. We will need to make a trip over to Dayton in the next few weeks.

  6. #6
    Worthless Lump of Flesh Ptkirk's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2007
    Location
    Dayton
    Age
    36
    Posts
    15
    99 T/A

    Yeah they work now, let me know when would be good for you.

    Pro 5.0, Skip Shift, Free Ram Air, SLP Air Lid, EGR/AIR Delete
    http://www.ls1.com/forums/images/smilies/buttkick.gif

  7. #7
    Senior Member Orcus79's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2006
    Location
    Canada
    Age
    38
    Posts
    1,346

    black
    2002 WS6

    Sounds like the fuse block to me, if there was smoke there could be more coming, follow the harness and inspect every wire for rubbing and shorting in that area, any where the harness will be mounted or rubbing on some thing.

    Double check the fuses to.

  8. #8
    Si Vis Pacem, Para Bellum 2002_LS1's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2008
    Location
    Mountain Home, Id
    Age
    31
    Posts
    17

    Pewter Metallic
    2002 Firebird Trans Am

    fuse block, most def... I think you need to check the wiring and make sure to replace the fuse after just in case...

  9. #9
    Worthless Lump of Flesh Ptkirk's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2007
    Location
    Dayton
    Age
    36
    Posts
    15
    99 T/A

    Okay so I am crawling around under the dash and here is what I found so far.


    This is the wire that shorted.

    file:///C:/Documents%20and%20Settings/James%20Kirkland/Desktop/Trans%20am%20Wire%20Issue/Wire%20Cirlcled.JPG


    This is where it goes into the harness to the left of the steering column.

    file:///C:/Documents%20and%20Settings/James%20Kirkland/Desktop/Trans%20am%20Wire%20Issue/Harness%20Tagged.JPG


    Any ideas on where the wire goes would be greatly appreciated.

  10. #10
    Worthless Lump of Flesh Ptkirk's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2007
    Location
    Dayton
    Age
    36
    Posts
    15
    99 T/A

    So i just realized I am not allowed to post pics.

    So the wire is the red wire with black markings that runs into the top left corner of the wiring harness to the left of the steering column. Thanks for your help.

  11. #11
    Worthless Lump of Flesh Ptkirk's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2007
    Location
    Dayton
    Age
    36
    Posts
    15
    99 T/A

    okay just checked the resistance in the wire inside the car and found that it runs into what i believe is the DRL box behind the radio. I opened the box and found nothing inside of it. I think I will begin working from the harness back to the fuse box, any suggestions?

  12. #12
    Senior Member Orcus79's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2006
    Location
    Canada
    Age
    38
    Posts
    1,346

    black
    2002 WS6

    Just keep tracing it back to where you saw the smoke, best way to find it. Pay really close attention to any where it bends, flexes, mounts or may rub on an edge. It may not have been that particular wire either.

  13. #13
    Worthless Lump of Flesh Ptkirk's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2007
    Location
    Dayton
    Age
    36
    Posts
    15
    99 T/A

    I was able to check the resistance from the harness to the fuse box and it was slightly more, but that could have been the extra wire I had to add to make my volt meter reach. Any Ideas?

    Double checked the fuses and came up with nothing.

  14. #14
    Worthless Lump of Flesh Ptkirk's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2007
    Location
    Dayton
    Age
    36
    Posts
    15
    99 T/A

    I tried swapping out the "brain" by the fuse box and got nothing.

  15. #15
    Senior Member Orcus79's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2006
    Location
    Canada
    Age
    38
    Posts
    1,346

    black
    2002 WS6

    Sounds like an internal break in the wire that may not show up. for shits and giggles have you checked the relays?

  16. #16
    Senior Member Orcus79's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2006
    Location
    Canada
    Age
    38
    Posts
    1,346

    black
    2002 WS6

    ok, the red black has nothing to do with the lights, that is the wire for your power door locks, according to my service manual for a 2000 Fbody. Those run on a breaker that I bet is smoking hot and open. Use pliers to remove it so you don't burn your self.

  17. #17
    Worthless Lump of Flesh Ptkirk's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2007
    Location
    Dayton
    Age
    36
    Posts
    15
    99 T/A

    I have had problems locating the relays on my wire diagrams. I need to get a service manual.

    Where is the relay located?


    So the Red with Black stripes is not a light power source? I thought I had traced it correctly. I wish i could post a pic, would it help if i emailed it to you?

  18. #18
    Senior Member Orcus79's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2006
    Location
    Canada
    Age
    38
    Posts
    1,346

    black
    2002 WS6

    Yea it would help, e-mail addy should be posted in my profile. And drop by chat would help go over things.

  19. #19
    Worthless Lump of Flesh Ptkirk's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2007
    Location
    Dayton
    Age
    36
    Posts
    15
    99 T/A

    Unhappy Got the service manuals!!

    Okay,

    I used the manual to Ident. the wire I nicked: C200 connector Red wire B6.

    Still getting power, rechecked the fuses...

    Went thru the DRL trouble shooting and it seems to check out.

    However for giggles wouldn't be against swapping it out to see if that would fix the problem. The local junkyard has a couple of LT1 Firebirds. Anyone know if the DRL module is the same and where it is located? I checked behind the radios and it's not there.

    I think I will begin checking the continuity of the wires from the headlamp switch now.

    When you guys said fuse block, what did you mean, I am assuming I should be looking at and beyond the fuses.

    Thanks in advance.

  20. #20
    Worthless Lump of Flesh Ptkirk's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2007
    Location
    Dayton
    Age
    36
    Posts
    15
    99 T/A

    DRL Modlule

    Okay, This is really annoying....

    I am pretty sure the DRL module is not the issue. I checked the continuity across the C1 D & F wires and when I turn the headlamps on there was continuity.

    I started trouble shooting the Headlamp Opening Actuator Control Module. As I checked C1 Terminal A and D and got no voltage. Then Terminal A and another ground and had no voltage.

    The manual then told me to repair connection in circuit 10.

    This sucks....http://www.ls1.com/forums/images/smilies/suicide.gif

Thread Information

Users Browsing this Thread

There are currently 1 users browsing this thread. (0 members and 1 guests)

Similar Threads

  1. Help: security light issues...HELP..!!!!!!!!!
    By DIRK DIGGLER in forum Stereo and Electronics
    Replies: 0
    Last Post: 09-14-2011, 07:04 AM
  2. Tail Light, Head Light Lens Cleanup, Body Work Questions
    By MAXX2 in forum Appearance Section
    Replies: 3
    Last Post: 12-15-2010, 09:15 AM
  3. tcs off light issues
    By TOMASINO in forum Firebird / WS6
    Replies: 23
    Last Post: 11-30-2010, 05:53 PM
  4. fog light issues
    By blackbirdbrain89 in forum Firebird / WS6
    Replies: 21
    Last Post: 02-04-2008, 04:29 PM
  5. Security Light Issues
    By BlackLT1Z28 in forum LT1
    Replies: 9
    Last Post: 11-20-2007, 10:10 AM

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •